On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:38:48PM -0400, Marc Mouries wrote: > On 3/17/2011 11:31 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > >Art conveys emotions which are the one thing that make us human > >>and thus should be played by human. > >"should be"? Hmm. "Art conveys emotions, and thus sheet music > >should be engraved by a human". > You are mixing unrelated things. The analogy is about getting > emotion from listening or watching the artifact produced. While i > find electronic engraving useful, people find ancient manual > engraving much nicer.
But you're not arguing that I should not be allowed to use computer engraving if I want to. > i just don't like this piece and it's out of tune. One vocaloid > generated song I enjoy is this: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm2IQ0y2J0Q ick. I consider that to be one of the worst "meme videos" that people did with Miku. What about a ballad? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cAnspI1C0o > >Guess why I don't have audio recordings of my compositions on my > >website? > > There is a college kid here who is playing in a quartet and started > to include his own composition in their recital. You could > certainly do the same, create your own quartet and play your own > composition. Sure! Each time I move to a new continent (3 times in the past 3 years, and probably a 4th coming up in 18 months), I can make new highly-skilled string-playing friends, become sufficiently friendly so that I can ask them to practice for a few hours and then spend a few hours making recordings. And whenever I want to add a different instrument, I can become friends with another performer, again becoming sufficiently good friends that I can ask them to do about 10 hours of work for no pay. Oh yeah, and since these recordings would be open-source, they of course would get no royalties or anything like that. That's a lot of "friendship" to impose. Alternatively, I could pay people. Let's see... for my cello trios, I'd need one cellist (with at least 15 years of experience) to practice for about 4 hours, and two more cellists to practice for 2 hours. Then add in a 2-hour recording session. That's... hmm, what's the going rate for cellists with 15-20 years of classical experience? Let's call it CDN $100 ? And renting a recording studio for 2 hours, and a sound technician... I honestly have no idea. $1000? that's probably too low, but whatever. So I'm now looking at CND $2000 to create a recording of one 5-minute piece. Oh, but I probably need to pay the musicians extra to be happy with the "no royalties" thing. As a composer, I could write one of those every week... but at those prices, I think I'd only write one every year. OR, I could just give the .ly file to Vivi version 9.4, and produce a decent-sounding .wav file in 60 seconds. For free. And (legally) make the result open-source as well. That sounds like a clear win to me. > I complain because it's more than a matter of taste. The impact is > bigger than what it seems. Yes, but I think the impact of making it easier and better for music *composers* will outweigh any inconvience for music *performers*. Is Vocaloid ruining the market for jpop singers? Maybe... but in exchange, it's created a market for thousands of people to create music where it was previously impossible. I mean, in theory I could learn oboe or piano -- but unless I have a sex change operation and massive throat reconstruction surgery, there's no way that I could ever sing like Miku Hatsune. There's a huge amount of human creativity involved in Vocaloid, Miku Miku Dance, and the like. I think the good of that *far* outweighs any (alleged) harm that Vocaloid is doing to professional pop music in Japan. Cheers, - Graham _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
