Re: quit

2009-11-10 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.11.2009, at 01:01, Erik Appeldoorn wrote: As several users have responded asking for feedback why I stopped with lilypond (or criticism). Here's my 2cents worth. During the last four weeks I have been restoring a piece. It has come to me in several different parts. Handwriting, several

series of up'n'down bows: /\\//\\/

2009-11-10 Thread user28
hello, http://old.nabble.com/file/p26295691/1.jpg now i can write single bow marks: a^\markup {\musicglyph #"scripts.upbow"} a^\markup {\rotate #180 \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow"} and series: a^\markup {\musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" \rotate #180 \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow"} but when each note h

Re: vim vagaries

2009-11-10 Thread Neil Thornock
To use vim there is nothing to set up -- you just start typing in vim, save the file, and process it. But you might be referring to setting up syntax highlighting, which is actually not a necessary part of the process, but may be helpful. If all you want to do is use vim, then you just start usin

RE: quit

2009-11-10 Thread Erik Appeldoorn
As several users have responded asking for feedback why I stopped with lilypond (or criticism). Here's my 2cents worth. During the last four weeks I have been restoring a piece. It has come to me in several different parts. Handwriting, several voices just as extraction parts. The publisher asked

Re: quit

2009-11-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Erik Appeldoorn wrote: > I’ve been around for a short while only. A month with lilypond and 3 weeks > on the list. Made a couple of scores, quite complex ones. But for each and > every one I had to fiddle for hours and hours trying to grab all the > details. All t

vim vagaries

2009-11-10 Thread J.
Hi Again evrey body, I'm happy to say that with because of the help you gave me I was not only able to get jedit up and running for lilypond but was encouraged to succede in setting up emacs too! Vim though is somthing else. I looked at the directions on the lilypond site for setting it up but,

RE: quit

2009-11-10 Thread Ed Ardzinski
Seems like a month is too short a time before giving up. I really have no other experience with other software like Finale or Sibelius, so I can't say anythign about them, but I have been very pleased with what I can do with LP. But it did take about 6 months before I was really getting it (n

Re: quit

2009-11-10 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Sibelius is a really great software. It is not free, can't be run from a wiki, but great, it even handles collisions pretty well. Still I think it is worth spending time with LilyPond, it took me far more than 1 month on the list, so congratulations, that you could create complex scores after th

Re: quit

2009-11-10 Thread James E. Bailey
On 10.11.2009, at 20:36, Erik Appeldoorn wrote: I’ve been around for a short while only. A month with lilypond and 3 weeks on the list. Made a couple of scores, quite complex ones. But for each and every one I had to fiddle for hours and hours trying to grab all the details. All the while

Re: modern accidentals rule (was: Re: Bad spacing (gap) when large interval and accidental)

2009-11-10 Thread Frédéric Bron
> Could you prepare a patch adding the known behavior and this workaround to > the Known Issues in Displaying pitches in pitches.itely? OK, I will do that. Frédéric --- Frédéric Bron (frederic.b...@m4x.org) Villa des Quatre Chemins, Centre

quit

2009-11-10 Thread Erik Appeldoorn
I've been around for a short while only. A month with lilypond and 3 weeks on the list. Made a couple of scores, quite complex ones. But for each and every one I had to fiddle for hours and hours trying to grab all the details. All the while I had Sibelius at the ready and whenever I did fallback f

Re: cadenza causes barcheck failure?

2009-11-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
Dear Frogs (or anybody else interested), Could someone volunteer to create a patch to the documentation by adding this to the Known issues and warnings section of Unmetered music in rhythms.itely? Thanks, Carl On 11/10/09 7:46 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" wrote: > It seems that you have to explicit

Re: modern accidentals rule (was: Re: Bad spacing (gap) when large interval and accidental)

2009-11-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
Frederic, Thanks for the info. On 11/10/09 11:55 AM, "Frédéric Bron" wrote: >>> BTW, I have found a strange behaviour of "modern" accidentals rule: >>> LilyPond considers volta alternatives as "previous" measure. Is this >>> correct? (Note the natural sign at the 2nd and 3rd alternatives, not

Re: modern accidentals rule (was: Re: Bad spacing (gap) when large interval and accidental)

2009-11-10 Thread Frédéric Bron
>> BTW, I have found a strange behaviour of "modern" accidentals rule: >> LilyPond considers volta alternatives as "previous" measure. Is this >> correct? (Note the natural sign at the 2nd and 3rd alternatives, not >> related to the previous _played_ measure.) Yes, this is known behaviour. Here is

Re: temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stupid of me - ignore this - sorry for the noise :( Trevor - Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" To: "Mats Bengtsson" ; "Stefan Thomas" Cc: "lilypond-user" Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:25 PM Subject: Re: temporary staff for divisi Mats Bengtsson wrote Tuesday, Novemb

Re: temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:40 PM I answer this email for the record. It seems that there's an attempt to explain this better in the 2.13 manual than in the 2.12 manual, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/Context-layout-order#Context-layout-order

Re: 2.13.7 PDF doc

2009-11-10 Thread Martin Tomek
Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 16:21:34 schrieb Federico Bruni: > Nick Payne wrote: > > I have created a PDF portfolio of the the 2.13.7 English PDF > > documentation (the portfolio has an embedded index that enables > > searching across all the manuals at once). It can be downloaded from > > http:

Re: temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-10 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I answer this email for the record. It seems that there's an attempt to explain this better in the 2.13 manual than in the 2.12 manual, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/Context-layout-order#Context-layout-order and http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/A

Re: : temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Stefan, But how can I get Angular brackets for the two first violins? Not sure what you mean by the question? Please clarify. Regards, Kieren. p.s. I found your original code very difficult to read/diagnose, because of the mixing of content with presentation, indent inconsistencies, e

Re: : temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-10 Thread Stefan Thomas
Yes, now I've got what I wanted! 2009/11/10 Mats Bengtsson > I was just about to formulate an answer to your initial question, but it > turns out that you have figured it out partially yourself. The reason that > your latest example looks a bit weird is that a GrandStaff cannot contain a > Choir

Re: : temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-10 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I was just about to formulate an answer to your initial question, but it turns out that you have figured it out partially yourself. The reason that your latest example looks a bit weird is that a GrandStaff cannot contain a ChoirStaff (unless you modify the definition of GrandStaff). If you ins

Re: Pango problems

2009-11-10 Thread James E. Bailey
On 10.11.2009, at 17:04, Kieren MacMillan wrote: [Mac OS X 10.4.11, Lilypond 2.13.7] Hi all, When I run lilypond -dshow-available-fonts blabla I get dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib// libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/Lilypond/development/LilyPo

re: : temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-10 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, I've got a little bit more knowledge. I found out that I can place a staff exactly with alignAboveContext But how can I get Angular brackets for the two first violins? \version "2.12.2" violineA = \context Staff ="ViolineA" { \set Staff.instrumentName = "Violine 1" \set Staff.s

temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-10 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, I have a question, cocerning divisi (for strings). Why is so order of the staves so stange? Here is my snippet, excuse, please, the childish musical example: \version "2.12.2" violineA = \new Staff { \set Staff.instrumentName = "Violine 1" \set Staff.shortInstrumentName="Vln. 1"

Re: slashSeparator - usage

2009-11-10 Thread Robin Bannister
David Sumbler wrote: I thought that using the slashSeparator between items would make things clearer, but I only want it after each complete item, not after every line. It sounds as though each of your exercises is a \score block. You can put (stand-alone) markup between these blocks; see

Pango problems

2009-11-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
[Mac OS X 10.4.11, Lilypond 2.13.7] Hi all, When I run lilypond -dshow-available-fonts blabla I get dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib// libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/Lilypond/development/LilyPond.app/ Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond Reason: I

Re: 2.13.7 PDF doc

2009-11-10 Thread Federico Bruni
Nick Payne wrote: I have created a PDF portfolio of the the 2.13.7 English PDF documentation (the portfolio has an embedded index that enables searching across all the manuals at once). It can be downloaded from http://www.users.on.net/~njpayne/music/lilydoc.pdf. Nick Thanks Nick! Before

Re: cadenza causes barcheck failure?

2009-11-10 Thread Xavier Scheuer
2009/11/10 chip : > I don't understand why a \cadenza section, a completely free-form unmetered > cadenza, is causing problems with the other parts. My piece is made up of 7 > instrument parts. I've added the entire piece at the bottom of this message. > (Oh, btw, there are no forced bar checks any

Re: cadenza causes barcheck failure?

2009-11-10 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It seems that you have to explicitly create a Voice context when you start a piece with \cadenzaOn: \include "english.ly" \new Voice \relative c'{ \cadenzaOn c16^"Solo Free Time" d ef f g2. as4 gs g32 gs g8~ g1 g4 f16 ef d f d ef c4 ef8 c16 d g,1 \bar "" c16 d ef f g2 g \glissando g' g16

Re: Very very slow Lilypond uninstall on Windows

2009-11-10 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op dinsdag 10-11-2009 om 01:45 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Patrick McCarty: > On 2009-11-10, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > > Op dinsdag 10-11-2009 om 00:51 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Patrick > > McCarty: > > > On 2009-11-09, Patrick McCarty wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Nick Payn

Re: cadenza causes barcheck failure?

2009-11-10 Thread chip
Thankyou for the reply - why is it that when I remove the " c1 | " from the beginning and end of your corrected example I then get bar lines throughout the cadenza? I don't want those c1's, they're not part of the piece. Do I have to do some override to make the bar lines invisible? Isn't that

Re: Very very slow Lilypond uninstall on Windows

2009-11-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-11-10, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op dinsdag 10-11-2009 om 00:51 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Patrick > McCarty: > > On 2009-11-09, Patrick McCarty wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Nick Payne > > > wrote: > > > > Patrick McCarty wrote: > > > I'm not sure what to do here. Bu

Re: cadenza causes barcheck failure?

2009-11-10 Thread Mats Bengtsson
chip wrote: why would a \cadenzaOn c16^"Solo Free Time" d ef f g2. as4 gs g32 gs g8~ g1 g4 f16 ef d f d ef c4 ef8 c16 d g,1 \bar "" c16 d ef f g2 g \glissando g' g16 f ef d c b a g f e d c4 b2 e b16 e b1 \bar "||" \cadenzaOff cause a bar check failure? It doesn't, at least not

Re: Very very slow Lilypond uninstall on Windows

2009-11-10 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op dinsdag 10-11-2009 om 00:51 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Patrick McCarty: > On 2009-11-09, Patrick McCarty wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Nick Payne > > wrote: > > > Patrick McCarty wrote: > I'm not sure what to do here. But IWBN if db did not install any of > these invalid syml

Re: Very very slow Lilypond uninstall on Windows

2009-11-10 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-11-09, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Nick Payne > wrote: > > Patrick McCarty wrote: > >> > >> I should have said "about half" of the files.  Most (if not all) of > >> the nonexistent files are supposed to be in the "\usr\docs\" > >> hierarchy.  The directory str

Re: Orphaned and widowed lines in \markuplines

2009-11-10 Thread Jiri Zurek (Prague)
David Kastrup wrote: > > The answer does not fit the question. The question was not about > stacking as much on a page as possible. Quite contrary: it was about > stacking less than possible if it avoids ugly results. > Indeed. Perhaps I was not specific enough. I look for a possibility to i