Re: Beaming sixteenths sandwiched in a triplet

2008-07-14 Thread Jonathan Kulp
It works fine in 2.11.51 Jon Matthew Rowles wrote: That sort of beaming is broken in 2.10.33. I think that it is fixed in the current dev version... (but I'm yet to try it out) 2008/7/15 Chris Canipe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm struggling in my attempts at beaming two sixteenths in the middle

Re: Beaming sixteenths sandwiched in a triplet

2008-07-14 Thread Matthew Rowles
That sort of beaming is broken in 2.10.33. I think that it is fixed in the current dev version... (but I'm yet to try it out) 2008/7/15 Chris Canipe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm struggling in my attempts at beaming two sixteenths in the middle of a > triplet. Is this possible with automatic beamin

Beaming sixteenths sandwiched in a triplet

2008-07-14 Thread Chris Canipe
I'm struggling in my attempts at beaming two sixteenths in the middle of a triplet. Is this possible with automatic beaming, or must one result to beam counts? I've attached an example showing my current output and my desired output; code follows: \paper{ ragged-right=##t } \relative c'' { \t

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Bertalan Fodor
This argument is like: "I have all the predefined commands I need for editing all my LilyPond files". Currently JEdit with LilyPondTool is the only editor for LilyPond that provides syntax checking and autocompletion of tweaks. I consider those such crucial features I can't image how other peo

Re: No Time Signature, bar lines...

2008-07-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:40:35 + (UTC) David Kendal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a pair of "Amen" pieces I'm trying to typeset. > Being traditional church music, they have no time > signature - and the bar lengths are very odd, > the bars only being there to organise the piece and aid reh

No Time Signature, bar lines...

2008-07-14 Thread David Kendal
>> Satisfying the checker... which thinks I'm top-posting otherwise. I have a pair of "Amen" pieces I'm trying to typeset. Being traditional church music, they have no time signature - and the bar lengths are very odd, the bars only being there to organise the piece and aid rehearsal. So, o

Re: Staff spacing problem with piano centered dynamics

2008-07-14 Thread Jim Cline
Hi Mats, I am using version 2.11.46. The layout I was using appeared to correspond to that of 2.10 (in fact, I'm no longer sure I used Les Nereides, I may have just gotten the template from the proper place for 2.10). I have now fixed the layout to follow the 2.11 documentation, http://lily

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 14, 2008 11:01 PM I've never actually used jedit myself, but I'm quite impressed with the screenshots and video showing off the advanced commands (auto-completion, docs, etc). I think that most people *would* be better served by using lilypondtool. Perhaps

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 14, 2008 6:40 PM Non-command-line people should be using jedit anyway, so they get the three-click toggle that Bert was talking about. No I shouldn't. I have a text editing environment that has all the features I need for editing all my text files, and I ha

Re: Staff spacing problem with piano centered dynamics

2008-07-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
What LilyPond version do you use? Don't expect an example written for version 2.5 to provide optimal layout in a later version, especially not if it uses such strange tricks as this particular example. To find a relevant example to use as a starting point, look at the "Templates" section of the m

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:39:31 +0200 Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Montag, 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Graham Percival: > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:25:09 + (UTC) > > > > Given this difference, I'm not convinced that this predef is > > really needed. Looking at the docs and finding

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I don't think it's about forcing to use a specific editor. Personally I love all editors that provide shortcuts, macros or whatever to ease lilypond development. Unfortunately there is not many of them. So I have the following points: - put as many features into editors as you can - put as many

Staff spacing problem with piano centered dynamics

2008-07-14 Thread jimmy2
After months of work, I just finished setting a long piece for piano, using the example LES NÉRÉIDES given in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/examples.html as a template. This uses dynamics between the two staves, \score { \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "upper" \upper \new

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Graham Percival: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:25:09 + (UTC) > > Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, if we need to emphasize the > > difference (that you can't have point and click on in part of your >

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:25:09 + (UTC) Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, if we need to emphasize the > difference (that you can't have point and click on in part of your > music and off everywhere else), then perhaps it's better to have an > entirely different construct, so \n

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave a écrit, Monday, July 14, 2008 7:25 PM, 2008/7/14 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Two good points. So why do we need \pointAndClickOn? John Mandereau (whom I've just met with) has just given me an example of a case where one would need a \pointAndClickOn: suppose y

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Scott
James E. Bailey wrote: > personally, I like having predefined commands. I don't know how to > say \key fis \major in scheme, and I don't want to know. Leaving > that kind of predefined command to the editor forces everyone to use > an (or /the/) editor that can send that kind of information. The >

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/7/14 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Two good points. So why do we need \pointAndClickOn? John Mandereau (whom I've just met with) has just given me an example of a case where one would need a \pointAndClickOn: suppose you have a default stylesheet file, called e.g. "layout.ly", that

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Carl Sorensen
Trevor Daniels treda.co.uk> writes: > > Mark Knoop wrote Monday, July 14, 2008 9:56 AM > > > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 02:21 +, Carl Sorensen wrote: > >> Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: > >> OK, I'll bite. > >> > Two good points. So why do we need \pointAndClickOn? > It is on by default,

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 14 juil. 08 à 14:19, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) a écrit : Well, the fun is that it seems that Scheme creators like predefined commands as well. Think of the commands cadr, caddr, cadddr, which are essentially: (car (list-tail mylist 2)) (car (list-tail mylist 3)) (car (list- tail mylis

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Well, the fun is that it seems that Scheme creators like predefined commands as well. Think of the commands cadr, caddr, cadddr, which are essentially: (car (list-tail mylist 2)) (car (list-tail mylist 3)) (car (list-tail mylist 4)) In SRFI-1, the first extension of the Scheme language even inc

Re: yrics on one line with some repeated sections

2008-07-14 Thread madhg
madhg wrote: > > ... > > Example below. > > The lyrics for the last section are engraved aligned with the second > stanza for the repeated section. The lyrics are going to get lower and > lower down if there are more repeated sections. > ... > OK, I found the answer by trial and error: a

Re: Adding chord names to a piano staff format

2008-07-14 Thread Thermo
Spot on Carl Thanks What country are you from? Carl Sorensen-3 wrote: > > Thermo iinet.net.au> writes: > >> >> >> I have this to build the guitar chords >> guitarChords = \chordmode {d a/fis g:7 g/a (etc) } >> >> Then I have this to build the whole score: >> >> \score { >

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 14.07.2008 um 12:28 schrieb Carl D. Sorensen: On 7/14/08 3:24 AM, "Nicolas Sceaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le 14 juil. 08 à 04:21, Carl Sorensen a écrit : I propose some new predefined functions: \pointAndClickOn pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) and \point

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 7/14/08 3:24 AM, "Nicolas Sceaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le 14 juil. 08 à 04:21, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > >> I propose some new predefined functions: >> >> \pointAndClickOn >> >> pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) >> >> and >> >> \pointAndClickOff >> >> pointAndCli

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Knoop wrote Monday, July 14, 2008 9:56 AM On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 02:21 +, Carl Sorensen wrote: Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: OK, I'll bite. I propose some new predefined functions: \pointAndClickOn pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) and \pointAndClickOff

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 14 juil. 08 à 04:21, Carl Sorensen a écrit : I propose some new predefined functions: \pointAndClickOn pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) and \pointAndClickOff pointAndClickOff = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) These do not do what you think they do. When the

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Knoop
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 02:21 +, Carl Sorensen wrote: > Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: > OK, I'll bite. > > I propose some new predefined functions: > > \pointAndClickOn > > pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) > > and > > \pointAndClickOff > > pointAndClickOff = #(ly:

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread James E. Bailey
personally, I like having predefined commands. I don't know how to say \key fis \major in scheme, and I don't want to know. Leaving that kind of predefined command to the editor forces everyone to use an (or the) editor that can send that kind of information. The predefined commands are a r

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Very good point :-) This is my real question as well. I remember this is not the first time that a new predefined command is added (or requested) for something that could be better handled with the editor. Bert James E. Bailey wrote: I don't know if this is really crowding the LilyPond namesp

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread James E. Bailey
I don't know if this is really crowding the LilyPond namespace with a feature that as far as I know is in one tool attached to a specific editor. I mean, if that's the case, why have any editor features as predefined commands in the first place? Am 14.07.2008 um 09:26 schrieb Bertalan Fodor

Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines

2008-07-14 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Yeah, it was very difficult. Exactly 3 clicks in LilyPondTool since years. (LilyPond > Source editing > Toggle point-and-click) I don't think we should crowd the LilyPond command namespace with editor features. Bert James E. Bailey wrote: Am 14.07.2008 um 04:21 schrieb Carl Sorensen: Mat