Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008-02-28 Thread Anh Hai Trinh
>>> * compound time sig -- this is a well established term refering to meter >>> such as 6/8, 9/8, 6/4, etc. in contrast to simple meters such as 3/8, 3/4, >>> etc. > > I just wanted to point out here that coumpond time signature is also another > well-established term that means something other t

Re: GDP: \articulation and -\articulation

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: That's not specific to articulations, though. For example, dynamics are (normally) always below notes, while slurs depend on the stem direction. I've added a note to mention that in NR 3.whatever. Yes and no! There are two aspects that are specific to articulations:

Re: GDP: What term do you use?

2008-02-28 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
On 28/02/2008, till wrote: > I just checked Felix Krohn again (well it is a bit outdated book but the > best I could find here in the library) and he calls it "oktaava" : Thanks, Till, for checking this up. I asked my friend but he didn't remember any special name for it - he plays piano and orga

Re: GDP: \articulation and -\articulation

2008-02-28 Thread Graham Percival
That's not specific to articulations, though. For example, dynamics are (normally) always below notes, while slurs depend on the stem direction. I've added a note to mention that in NR 3.whatever. Patrick: it's worth adding a pointer to scm/script.scm, though. I'd do it in the same paragraph as

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008-02-28 Thread Anh Hai Trinh
> Wow ... and I don't have $295 in couch cushion change to spend (every year) > on a subscription to Grove Music Online. (You must get a discount My school pays for it :p > Wikipedia IS NOT an authoritative source ... > >> polymeter implies polyrhythm and therefore is >> equivalent to your "simu

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008-02-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:03:01 -0800 Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008/02/28 6:12 PM, "Anh Hai Trinh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I have never heard the term polymeter. It does not show up in Grove > > Music Online (actually once but refering to poetic meter), not a > > go

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008-02-28 Thread Kurt Kroon
On 2008/02/28 6:12 PM, "Anh Hai Trinh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have never heard the term polymeter. It does not show up in Grove Music > Online (actually once but refering to poetic meter), not a good sign! Wow ... and I don't have $295 in couch cushion change to spend (every year) on a

Problems defining a BraceStaff

2008-02-28 Thread John Zaitseff
Dear LilyPond users, I have searched the LilyPond documentation, lilypond-user mailing list archives and the LilyPond snippet repository---all without success... The question is: how do I define a BraceStaff that is exactly like a ChoirStaff, except that braces are used instead of brackets at t

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Kurt Kroon
On 2008/02/28 1:30 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kurt Kroon wrote: >> \version "2.10.33" >> #(define (compound-time grob one two three num) >> (interpret-markup >>(ly:grob-layout grob) >>'(((baseline-skip . 2) >> (word-space . 2) >> (font-family . number)))

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008-02-28 Thread Anh Hai Trinh
* additive time sig -- could mean sth like (3 + 3 + 2)/8 or could mean irregular meters a la Messian That should be Messiaen, see . ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http:/

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008-02-28 Thread Anh Hai Trinh
How can we normalize the terminology? Here are my thoughts on the matter, trying to distill this into a controlled lexicon -- * polymeter -- the most generic term * sequential polymeter -- Ralph's definition * regular * irregular * simultaneous polymeter -- Valentin's d

Re: boxed-stencil.ly from tips and tricks

2008-02-28 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, Hello Frank, > at the lilypond site "tips and tricks" > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/input/test/out-www/collated-files.html > > I found the example boxed-stencil. Version 2.4? You do realize that this example is like 6 years old, I hope :) > I need th

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Hans Aberg
On 28 Feb 2008, at 23:23, Joseph Wakeling wrote: I was wondering more if it was possible for that to be a generally-set preference, along the lines of "\set Staff.timeSignature #'style = note" (that's pseudo code, obviously:-), and also how complex the resulting note could be: for example, i

pedal bracket too short

2008-02-28 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Lilypond-users, I don't know why, but in the below quoted example is the pedal bracket shorter than expected. I find it strange, that it works fine with text-stylle pedal. How can I solve the problem? re = \change Staff = rechts li = \change Staff = links standardped = { \override Staff.Pian

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Hans Aberg wrote: > On 28 Feb 2008, at 17:32, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > >> I was wondering more if it was possible for that to be a >> generally-set preference, along the lines of "\set Staff.timeSignature >> #'style = note" (that's pseudo code, obviously:-), and also how complex >> the resulting n

Re: slurs

2008-02-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor
There is also Stewart Holmes' Bezier Tool for visually creating slurs like this. It will be in the next release of LilyPondTool. Unfortunately I don't have a copy from this tool and the original has disappeared from Stewart's site. I CC Stewart if he can put it on again. I hope his email is sti

Re: again: funktionsbezeichnungen

2008-02-28 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Mats, sorry, I've forgotten this! 2008/2/28, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have already answered that, last time you sent a similar question > to the mailing list, see > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-12/msg00195.html > >/Mats > > > Stefan Thomas wrote: >

Re: GDP: What term do you use?

2008-02-28 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 27.02.2008 (11:37), Anh Hai Trinh wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:04:35 -0500, Kieren MacMillan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Eyolf, >> >>> Or one might turn the argument around and say that the melody is indeed >>> trans-posed -- placed somewhere else, whereas the negative associations

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Hans Aberg
On 28 Feb 2008, at 17:32, Joseph Wakeling wrote: I was wondering more if it was possible for that to be a generally-set preference, along the lines of "\set Staff.timeSignature #'style = note" (that's pseudo code, obviously:-), and also how complex the resulting note could be: for example, ima

Re: slurs

2008-02-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi James, I'm wondering how difficult it will be to have a slur change direction. See HTH, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-u

Re: Comments in GDP, Was: comments

2008-02-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:19:04 +0100 "James E. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28.02.2008, at 11:07, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > > > Did you search for "Comment" in the index of the Tutorial? > > > > However, you are right that it seems to be missing in the NR, > > where it also should be inclu

boxed-stencil.ly from tips and tricks

2008-02-28 Thread Frank . Weichert
Hi, at the lilypond site "tips and tricks" http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/input/test/out-www/collated-files.html I found the example boxed-stencil. I need the F in a little box. But this example does not work at my version of lilypond 2.10.33 Windows-Version. This happens during compilation: A

slurs

2008-02-28 Thread James E. Bailey
I'm wondering how difficult it will be to have a slur change direction. I can get http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?1a4ef0a831.jpg in finale (I know, horrible considering the current discussions), and I'm just wondering if there's an easy way to do that in lilypond.___

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Search for "time signature note" in the mailing list archives, and you will > find, for example > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-04/msg00123.html That's cool. I was wondering more if it was possible for that to be a generally-set preference, along the

RE: Text script below spanner?

2008-02-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Rune In the LM you can find this topic discussed in some detail in Section 4.4 Placement of objects, SubSection 4.4.3 Outside staff objects. Let me know if this would have helped (or not). Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.dani

RE: Fingering inside staff

2008-02-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco There is also quite a large section on fingering in the Learning Manual in Section 4.4.2 Within-staff objects which may help you. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-le arning/Within_002dstaff-objects#Within_002dstaff-objects Trevor D > -Original Message

RE: shifting whole measure rest

2008-02-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
It's also given as an example in the Learning Manual, section 4.5.2 Fixing overlapping notation. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-le arning/Fixing-overlapping-notation#Fixing-overlapping-notati on Trevor D > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [ma

Re: shifting whole measure rest

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-02/msg00673.html /Mats David Bobroff wrote: I want to shift a full measure rest downwards below the staff. This is to keep it from overlapping cue notes in the staff. I *can* use #'extra-offset to move it but it doesn't have a ledger

Re: shifting whole measure rest

2008-02-28 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op donderdag 28 februari 2008, schreef David Bobroff: > I want to shift a full measure rest downwards below the staff. This is > to keep it from overlapping cue notes in the staff. I *can* use > #'extra-offset to move it but it doesn't have a ledger line above it to > indicate that it is a "whole

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Search for "time signature note" in the mailing list archives, and you will find, for example http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-04/msg00123.html /Mats Joseph Wakeling wrote: Kurt Kroon wrote: (I'm not sure if one can extend this last one in LilyPond to more complex exam

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 comment

2008-02-28 Thread till
Mats Bengtsson-4 wrote: > > Right! GrandStaff contexts are often used in orchestral scores, for > example, to > group a number of staves together, such as the string parts. In > LilyPond, the > GrandStaff and PianoStaff contexts appear in the same way in the context > hierarchy. > We discusse

shifting whole measure rest

2008-02-28 Thread David Bobroff
I want to shift a full measure rest downwards below the staff. This is to keep it from overlapping cue notes in the staff. I *can* use #'extra-offset to move it but it doesn't have a ledger line above it to indicate that it is a "whole" rest. It's just a floating box. How can I get a center

Re: again: funktionsbezeichnungen

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I have already answered that, last time you sent a similar question to the mailing list, see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-12/msg00195.html /Mats Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Marc, dear Mats, thanks for Your advices. They both worked well. I tried: \version "2.11.38" ve

Re: GDP: What term do you use?

2008-02-28 Thread till
Risto Vääräniemi-2 wrote: > > On 28/02/2008, Kurt Kroon wrote: >> Finnish: >> Risto, you out there? I don't think anyone else can handle Finnish >> > > Present! > > I've been following the conversation with interest but I haven't used > ottava brackets myself (I mostly write only vo

re: again: funktionsbezeichnungen

2008-02-28 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Marc, dear Mats, thanks for Your advices. They both worked well. I tried: \version "2.11.38" verkuerzter = \markup { D \hspace #-2.5 / \sub 5 \super 7 } \new Staff \relative {c1_\verkuerzter } But how can I change the horizontal position of the number "7"? ___

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Kurt Kroon wrote: >> (I'm not sure if one can extend this last one in LilyPond to more complex >> examples, like when the numerator is an additive expression, and the >> denominator is a single digit, e.g. (3+2+3)/8.) > > I was mistaken ... it *is* possible to extend the syntax (which seems > comp

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/28 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Try: > #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 8 8) 3 8) > #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 8 8) 5 8) > \set Staff.beatGrouping = #'(3 2 3) LOL -- I hadn't seen your answer, Mats, sorry. > On the other hand, don't hesitate in general t

Re: Additive time signatures (was: GDP ... complex meters)

2008-02-28 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/28 Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I was mistaken ... it *is* possible to extend the syntax (which seems > completely reasonable, in retrospect). I've borrowed (and stretched) the > compound-time-signature snippet as follows: Yes, everything is possible :) > It isn't quite right --

Re: again: funktionsbezeichnung

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Here's an alternative solution that defines a markup command to add the slash to any character. \version "2.10.0" % Inspired by slashed-digit from scm/define-markup.scm: #(define-markup-command (slashed-char layout props ch) (char?) "A character, with slash." (let* ((mag (magstep (chain-a

Re: Comments in GDP, Was: comments

2008-02-28 Thread James E. Bailey
On 28.02.2008, at 11:07, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Did you search for "Comment" in the index of the Tutorial? However, you are right that it seems to be missing in the NR, where it also should be included for completeness. /Mats James E. Bailey wrote: Maybe I'm still sleepy (it's early), but I'

Comments in GDP, Was: comments

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Did you search for "Comment" in the index of the Tutorial? However, you are right that it seems to be missing in the NR, where it also should be included for completeness. /Mats James E. Bailey wrote: Maybe I'm still sleepy (it's early), but I'm not finding the section on comments in the new

Re: comments

2008-02-28 Thread Simon Bailey
hi james, On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:58 AM, James E. Bailey wrote: Maybe I'm still sleepy (it's early), but I'm not finding the section on comments in the new documentation. Specifically, something that deals with http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Working-on-text-files#Wo

Re: Scheme variables and chordmode

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Unfortunately, there are some limitations on what you can do, syntactically, within a #{ ... #} construct and you have hit upon one of these limitations. If you read section "Building complicated functions" in the manual, you will see how to handle such cases using pure Scheme constructs. /M

comments

2008-02-28 Thread James E. Bailey
Maybe I'm still sleepy (it's early), but I'm not finding the section on comments in the new documentation. Specifically, something that deals with http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Working-on-text-files#Working-on-text-files but in the documentation for 2.11. I realise

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 comment

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Right! GrandStaff contexts are often used in orchestral scores, for example, to group a number of staves together, such as the string parts. In LilyPond, the GrandStaff and PianoStaff contexts appear in the same way in the context hierarchy. We discussed more or less the same issue back in Novem

Re: Additive time signatures

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Kurt Kroon wrote: (I'm not sure if one can extend this last one in LilyPond to more complex examples, like when the numerator is an additive expression, and the denominator is a single digit, e.g. (3+2+3)/8.) I was mistaken ... it *is* possible to extend the syntax (which seems completel

Re: again: funktionsbezeichnung

2008-02-28 Thread Marc Hohl
On Thursday 28 February 2008 10:20:30 Stefan Thomas wrote: > Dear lilypond-users, > is it possible, to build the "funktionsbezeichnung"? I mean the slashed > letter D7. It is the (bit strange but common ) symbol for the diminished > chord in germany's harmony classes. > Thanks for any advice. > St

again: funktionsbezeichnung

2008-02-28 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear lilypond-users, is it possible, to build the "funktionsbezeichnung"? I mean the slashed letter D7. It is the (bit strange but common ) symbol for the diminished chord in germany's harmony classes. Thanks for any advice. Stefan <>___ lilypond-user ma

Re: GDP: What term do you use?

2008-02-28 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
On 28/02/2008, Kurt Kroon wrote: > Finnish: > Risto, you out there? I don't think anyone else can handle Finnish Present! I've been following the conversation with interest but I haven't used ottava brackets myself (I mostly write only vocal music *) so I don't know if they have a name

Re: Midi problem

2008-02-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
David Fedoruk wrote: MIDI doesn't indicate exactly what the instruments will sound like. The exact sounds depend on the General MIDI instruments the person playing the file back has available on their computer. This is not the full story. You are right that different MIDI instruments, sound