Hi,
The patch in the attachment implements the command line option
--display-music. If it's on it will print the internal representation of
the score like \displayMusic and exit.
The main use for this option is to use the output of --display-music as
the input for other programs (it's easier to
Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> hi,
>
> I have an nearly complete implementation of a \displayLilyMusic
> command.
> Should there be such a command inside the LilyPond distribution?
I don't see why not. It might be good for things like debugging and
learning.
Pedro
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Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> given the positive feedback, I think we could list it on the download
> page as well?
yes. I added it in cvs, take a look and see what you think.
I assumed it's the 2.5.25 version and the "packager" is "LilyPond
development team"
Pedro
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Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Could we add a
> \paper{
> pagenumber = ##f
> }
> option?
we had a printpagenumber option in the past. I just re-added it in cvs
(please test). We also had printfirstpagenumber (it's still in the
manual). I'll see if I can re-add it as well.
Pedro
Hi,
make all fails with latest cvs code (ChangeLog 1.3818). here is what I get
Font `parmesan26'...
Warning: no extra font information for this font.
Consider writing a XX_guess_font_info() routine.
Using encoding file: `./out/parmesan26.enc'
Running Metafont...
Tracing bitmaps...
[33][34][35]
Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Almost a year ago, Pedro Kroger was working on a bnf description of
> lilypond. (see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-
> devel/2004-10/msg00074.html). Han-Wen suggested hacking Bison so that
> it would produce the BNF directly from the .yy fi
Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Aha -- now I see why you want to use ebnf instead of bnf -- you get each
> definition down to a single line.
that's right. the article in the link you posted doesn't say, but (I bet
you've figured) you can also use curly braces { and square brackets [
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What's happening? I think it's getting time for a 2.6 cygwin release.
I've been researching how to cross-build cygwin packages from linux. I
have no prior experience with cygwin development and I haven't found
much documentation about it, so it has
Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>Bertalan: I'd apreciate if you could give me a few pointers of how you
>>have done things, just to easy things for me.
thanks for your help. I'm building a windows-98 cygwin devel box using
qemu (easier for me so I don't have to be dual booting). I'll
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just my 2 cents: we have discovered that windows 98 (and cousins 95 and
> ME) is complete and utter crap.
that's not news :-)
> It's hard to run anything reliably, let alone use it to build things
> reliably. I recommend to get an XP box for this.
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Could you also change the (NOTE) for Fedora which points into nowhere
> for the moment (I have never checked out the CVS tree for the web,
> otherwise I could have done it myself).
just did.
Pedro
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Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I wouldn't worry about that. I haven't been afraid of large
> refactorings in the past (in fact, we have a very big one -- possibly
> the biggest in the history of lily -- coming up).
just curious, which one is that?
> The real worry is a financi
Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> AFAIK SCORE was developed by a single person, in FORTRAN,
ha! that's something.
> Also, he was not very forthcoming with information about internals.
yeah, I didn't think so.
> If my memory serves me, there is a SCORE list.
yep, here is:
ht
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can we watch the language? This is an open forum, with publicly
> accessible archives, probably with SCORE users reading along. There's
> nothing to be "stolen".
you are right. I'm the one who should apologize since I started this
"stealing" thing.
Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Contrary to Han-Wen, I don´t believe that the tweaking in Lily is too
> cumbersome (i.e. not direct enough). I believe that many SCORE users would
> be glad to have less to tweak in a single piece, but have the option to
> set up global tweaking
Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Pedro Kröger wrote:
>>
>> I don't know how many people are here or in lily-users, but if
>> we could get 100 people to contribute $20 for 6 months, [...]
>
> I am ready to do that.
of
Trevor Baca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> AFAIK, key-value pairs didn't exist in the late 70s when Leland
> started development (or maybe they did; anyway, they didn't make it
> into the program).
I believe they did exist (*cough* lisp *cough* :-))
> To use SCORE you literally have to memorize t
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2 downloads of the 2.6 release
wouldn't be nice if each one donated $1? :-)
> 1. apart from the "involved" people like you, how do you convince
> people to donate money? I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I think
> that the past two mon
"David Currie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My question : is there a command to auto adjust notes
> according
> to the above (usual) timing rules.
yes, check the example completion-heads.ly in the regression tests:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The reason why I am skeptical of donations, is that I myself have
> never felt inclined to donate for open source software.
I afraid you are wrong on this one. You have donated countless hours of
work for free software. This is priceless. In *your*
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Pedro Kröger wrote:
>> I also recommend we put a paypal icon on the front page, and maybe a
>> small text.
> I have actually been so busy with doing work, that I haven't been able
> to write an advertisement page :-
Hi,
I'm getting this error while running configure on cygwin (winxp):
ERROR: Please install required programs: gcc >= 2.8 (installed: 0.125)
g++ >= 3.0.5 (installed: 0.125)
This happens with both 2.6.3 and 2.7.x. configure is getting the last
number from gcc -v:
# gcc version 3.4.4 (cyg
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thanks for looking into this, but this will probably break when doing:
>
> CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 ./configure
Yep, it did break.
> I'm not exactly sure what to do. Probably first sed-out everything in
> parentheses.
I think this will work.
P
Hi,
I'm getting this error on debian.
Pedro
--
-DNDEBUG -I/usr/include/python2.3 -O2 -finline-functions -g -pipe
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include-
Hi,
I managed to compile lilypond on cygwin (native) without problems, but I
couldn't generate the package with mknetrel.
where are the $cygwin and $mknetrel variables supposed to be defined?
they are used in the cygwin/mknetrel file. both are retuning nothing. I
greped around for "cygwin=" and
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think this is the 4th report of the same bug. I have replaced a number
> of calls to fabs() by abs(), which seems to solve the problem, and
> commited the patch to CVS.
it works here.
Pedro
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it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [out/midi-item.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kroger/devel/lilypond/lilypond/lily'
make: *** [all] Error 2
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is "linux culture"
because we all here use linux (or macos).
The best thing to do, if you are interested, is to help lilypond to be a
better windows program. Jan have done lots of good work recently
(believe me, it used to be *much* worse), but there is more that can be
done.
Cheers,
Pedro
thought that /usr/local/share was for architecture independent
files:
"The root of the directory tree for read-only architecture-independent
data files. This should normally be /usr/local/share" [1]
But I suppose that in this case
/usr/lib/python/site-packages/
should be the right choi
int yy_start_stack_depth;
in order to get it compiling. But I upgraded to flex 2.6.31 and the
problem disappeared.
Is this problem consistent? maybe we should say something in
INSTALL. Anyway, shouldn't flex and bison be listed as a requirement in
INSTALL?
Pe
attachments could be accepted again, then?
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Hi,
Shouldn't eps be listed as a backend when 'lilypond -h' is issued?
if yes this tiny patch adds it:
http://www.pedrokroeger.net/lilypond/patch-kroger.gz
(never remember if attachments are allowed in what list)
Cheers
lazy! :-) see the attached patch.
2. I still think that a paypal logo in the front page is a good
idea.
Pedro Kröger
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t;$srcdir" != "." ; then
srcdir=$(cd $srcdir; pwd)
fi
which, naturally, raises an error.
I'm using M4 1.4.3 and autoconf 2.59.
Any ideas?
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Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, "if test "$srcdir ..." must be used in autoconf.
thanks, fixed in cvs.
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Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I guess we need to update the instructions here:
> http://lilypond.org/web/devel/
it's done. thanks.
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Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Could Pedro or anyone tell me what the next steps would be to create
> Debian snapshot packages or possibly autopackages to be made available
> to the community?
This is a good place to start, if you haven't checked yet:
http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-gu
Hi,
I started fixing some broken weblinks (using the 404 report) but
some things are not clear to me:
- how is something like this supposed to be fixed:
40 /doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/lilypond/lily-32998009.png
http://www.organy.com.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33&start=45&sid=7aa472a3
Sorry for the off-topic, but I'm curious about this. Since a few
people here speak languages other than English (french, German, Dutch,
Portuguese, etc) I was wandering how you configure your keyboard for
*programming*.
The use of dead keys is very comfortable to edit texts in languages
with accen
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The commit works ok (it's a warning message, not an error message),
> but should I be concerned?
No, it's something that has to be fixed at savannah:
"You can ignore the deprecation warnings that CVS issues when sending the
e-mail: we need to upgrade
Hi,
I get this error in the bootstrap fase. Can be reproduced running
python gub-builder.py -p local build guile
reading spec /home/kroger/devel/gub/specs/guile.py
reading spec /home/kroger/devel/gub/specs/gmp.py
reading spec /home/kroger/devel/gub/specs/libtool.py
installing package: gmp
i
Hi,
there is no 2.14 version of nsis in ftp.debian.org pool (at least not
now). the attached patch updates specs/nsis.py to use 2.15 which is in
the ftp.
pedro
New patches:
[nsis: new version
Pedro Kröger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>**20060319130702] {
hunk ./specs/nsis.py 37
- self.with (v
GUB asks for a darwin7-sdk-0.4.tar.gz file. where can I download it? I
google for it but I found nothing useful.
pedro
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The command:
python gub-builder.py -p local build flex
fails because flex-2.5.4a.tar.gz unpacks to flex-2.5.4 (without the "a")
and gub-builder is trying to do:
tar -C /home/kroger/devel/gub/target/local/src -zcf
/home/kroger/devel/gub/uploads/local/flex-2.5.4a-src.local.gub flex-2.5.4a
but th
Cameron Horsburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Before I start doing anything serious:
> 1) is there a reason why this hasn't been done before?
there is a faq here:
http://lilypond.org/web/about/faq
but it can developed, of course
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Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please make the source file available also (possibly in private mail
> if necessary) so that I can send you a diff.
you can get it here:
export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/exjobb2005-1
cvs co exjobb
Pedro
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Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If anyone wants to proofread the report, I'd be delighted to hear about any
> bugs in it, before I release it.
Cool, great job! I'm reading it and should send you any suggestions I
have (if any).
for now there is 2 small things:
1. there is no ackno
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is very strange. I can't duplicate this. Can you send the full
> build log?
I seems to be fixed now (it's working here). I believe this patch fixed
it (or some patch around the time of this one):
Sat Mar 18 18:13:26 BRT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
GUB tries to download this file:
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/w32api-in-usr-lib/w32api-in-usr-lib-1.0.tar.gz
but it doesn't existe in the ftp. the closest thing I could find was
this:
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/windows32api/windows32api-0.1.2.tar.gz
pedro
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http://lilypond.org/~hanwen/osx-lilypad-0.2.tar.gz. this happens with
darcs up to this patch:
Thu Mar 23 11:08:27 BRT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* document why NSIS_CONFIG_LOG is switched off.
Pedro
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Hi,
You may want to apply the attached patch. It updates
linux_kernel_headers to 2.6.13+0rc3-2.1. I couldn't find
2.6.13+0rc3-2 from any mirror.
Pedro
New patches:
[updated version of Linux_kernel_headers
Pedro Kröger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>**20060328000836] {
hunk ./li
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think the linux_kernel_headers are used for the linux build, not the
> debian one.
Hum, I was going to recommend to download directly from
linux-libc-headers [1] (linux from scratch and DIY-linux use it) but I
just learned the project is kind of de
Hi,
I'm compiling lily with ./configure --disable-optimising
--enable-debugging but the resulting binary is stripped:
[19:19:07] phoenix kroger $ file lily/out/lilypond
lily/out/lilypond: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses sha
I get this error with make bootstrap:
DISTCCD_PATH=/data/programas/gub/target/cross-distccd/bin distccd --daemon \
--port 3633 --pid-file /data/programas/gub/log/cross-distccd.pid \
--log-file /data/programas/gub/log/cross-distccd.log --log-level info
distccd[4706] (main) ERROR:
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It's simple. Scheme code will probably never run as fast as C++.
Unless, of couse, one uses a scheme compiler that can generate fast
code, like bigloo [1].
Pedro
Footnotes:
[1] http://www-sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/
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Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 5. Provide a unified documentation and mark features with a version
>>number, say,
> I suppose that this is possible... but IMO this would completely
> clutter the manual with unnecessary info.
I think that a compromise would work. Instead of ha
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hmmm; part of the problem might also stem from using CVS, which
> doesn't have good cherry-picking for patches.
would it be a solution to use darcs only for the manual? I know there
are some ways of syncing darcs and cvs, so maybe the doc stays in cv
"Rick Hansen (aka RickH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why not start a "child mailing list" here called "sponsorship pledges" or
> something like that.
so far we've been using the users list for that. The good thing is that
casual users can see the "sponsorship movement" and see that they can
"Han-Wen Nienhuys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> all text turning into the letter "y," etc. As such, postscript is the
> way to go. Not to mention that it's faster.
not to mention that with postscript the user can have an open reader
that will be automatically re-draw after each lilypond renderin
Cameron Horsburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> difficult to understand. I presume this is a Scheme like construction --
> how do deeply nested lists get formatted there?
if you think in scheme/lisp, there is a concensus about how to indent
the code. this link may help:
http://dept-info.labri.fr
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Pedro Kroeger recently studied the source code, he might also be able
> to give you pointers.
right. I'm also thinking about writing someting about it as soon as I
get some free time.
Pedro
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Fellow lilypond hackers,
Unfortunatelly I haven't had much time for lilypond last months. I've
been rather busy with my job. So, I'd like to resign from my position as
Bug Meister. Is there anyone out there who is willing to take my position?
I intend to continue to contribute to lilypond develo
Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also, if you want to ditch cvs, you always leave somebody behind. For
> example, from what I understand, Han-Wen likes darcs very much... and I
> know plenty people (me included) who don't like it. Same goes for every
> version control system, b
Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> although you are free to call me an idiot.
no need to do that :-)
> - It does not seem to focus on version control, but on changing the
> order of patches.
this is kind of true (I don't know enought about darcs to say it's
totaly true)
> - It
If I click in the paypal button in this page
http://lilypond.org/web/sponsor/options
the paypal page is presented in dutch. is this some option for the [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
account?
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Hi,
Any clues why "cvs up" doesn't create a ttftool directory?
I have this in my ~/.cvsrc :
log -N
diff -u
update -P
checkout -P
cvs -z3
I checked out the code from scratch anyway, but I want to know why this
happened.
Pedro
P.S. sorry if this is too basic, but in these days of subversion a
Hi,
I think it's a good idea to create a HACKING file like Jan suggested
here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-09/msg00015.html
Since it's a pain to rename/move files in cvs I'm asking before I create
it. I vote to put it in the toplevel dir, but maybe you guys want it
unde
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you're working on the the next lilypond-snapshot would you consider
> renaming your current lilypond-snapshot to lilypond or something else
> and keeping it available. Feri's version still segfaults on my sid
> system.
I haven't work on it in a while. I
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Toplevel is fine; we don't let CVS stop us from moving it if
> necessary.
done
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Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can you check if current CVS works for you?
no, it doesn't :-( (ChangeLog 1.3181)
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Hi,
What do you think of adding "www.lilypond.org" to the default tagline?
"Engraved by LilyPond (version 2.x.y) www.lilypond.org."
(or something like that)
I'm thinking of musicians who may be playing music engraved by lilypond
and have no idea what it is.
Pedro
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Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Engraved by LilyPond 2.5.x (http://www.lilypond.org)
>> Engraved by LilyPond 2.5.x (www.lilypond.org)
>
>
> then I'd vote for the first, as (www.lilypond.org) looks half-baken to
> me.
not really, if you type www.lilypond.org in any browser it'll wor
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We need more agressive distribution maintainers, or maybe a
> distribution mainainer spanking MEISTER :-)
I do this from time to time (nag maintainers) and some of them are
responsive some are not :-(
I guess it's time to start the nagging season ag
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey, if they're slow enough, you could drop ec-fonts (2.6 doesn't need
> it :)
really?! I didn't know that. Gosh, I still have lots of catching up to
do :-)
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Is this code supposed to work?
common =
\relative c'' {
\tag #'part {c e g}
\tag #'score {d f a}
e g b
}
\score {
\simultaneous {
\new Staff {
\common
}
\new Staff {
\keepWithTag #'part \common
}
\new Staff {
\removeWithTag #'part \common
I think this small patch fixes it.
Pedro
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Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> We are a bit concerned with old LilyPond packages, and a potential
>>> new maintainer (Pedro Kroger) with his sponsor going mia.
>>
>> Who was going to sponsor him?
>
> I don't think Pedro told me that. Pedro?
actually he was going to sponsor anot
[sorry If I took too long to answer this, it's the beginning of the
semester over here (I'm a teacher) and I've been preparing classes and
expending more time in the classroom than in front of the
computer. plus, I'm finishing a big concerto for percussion and
orchestra that is taking lots of my t
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please consider my request to rename the existing lilypond-snapshot
> packages to plain lilypond so 2.4.2 will be available for production
> work until 2.5.whatever is fully ready.
I'll think about. but my inicial plan was to have both (i.e. lilypond
and l
Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I agree. The current state where lilypond-snapshot is actually a
> stable version should change, but being able to install both a stable
> and an unstable version is really useful.
I think that it would probably be nicier if each stable version could be
The subject says all. in this example the 1st staff should be hidden in
the second system like the 3rd staff. am I missing something?
\book {
\score {
<<
\new Staff {
\context RhythmicStaff {
\time 3/4
\repeat unfold 9 {\repeat unfold 3 {c4}}
R2.*
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, that RemoveEmptyStaffContext is a replacement only for the ordinary
> Staff context, not for any other kind of contexts. If you use a recent
> 2.5.xx version, then there is a predefined
> \RemoveEmptyRhythmicStaffContext in earlier LilyPond version
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Erik Sandberg writes:
>
>> This should IMHO be extended to something like
>>
>> -b, --backend=EXTselect backend to use. Possible values of
>> EXT are: ps, tex, gnome, svg
>
> Yes, and EXT is wrong too.
I just commited the change t
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You missed the .scm backend.
you're right. thanks.
just commited to cvs.
Pedro
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Bernard Hurley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have somewhat rashly volunteered to be Implementation documenter.
> Han-Wen informs me that various abortive starts have already been made
> on this. So if you have any material that would be useful, please e-mail
> it to me.
good to know you are wor
Mark Van den Borre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all,
>
> Contrary to what is reported on the Lilypond download page, 2.4.5 is not
> in Debian Sarge. It's in sid,
you're right, my mistake. fixed in cvs.
Pedro
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Hi,
I get this error message while building lily with scons (ChangeLog 1.3491):
[15:12:27] pythagoras kroger $ scons
scons: Reading SConscript files ...
scons: done reading SConscript files.
scons: Building targets ...
cd mf/out-scons && MFINPUTS=.:mf:/home/kroger/devel/lilypond/lilypond/mf:
/u
Here is what I get:
music-glossary.tely:4763 (lily-1230560126.ly):33:2: warning: stem doesn't fit
in beam
f:32 [ e8:16 f:16 g:16 a:16 ] s4
music-glossary.tely:4763 (lily-1230560126.ly):33:7: warning: beam was started
here
f:32
[ e8:16 f:16 g:16 a:16 ] s4[1]
Preprocessing graphical o
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