Very amusing. I use LV ties a lot and exactly need lengthy ones all the
time, not the short ones (despite the Bars book). One of our kind
colleagues on the list gave me code to extend LV ties, just excellent.
Not likely to be getting Sib. for that hot new feature.
Andrew
Am I right in supposing that 2.20.0 is the now stable version? I
notice that, for example, installing Frescobaldi on OpenSuse Leap 15
installs 2.18.2 together with it. Should these system packages now use
2.20.0 instead? That would be a good way to get people off the old
versions, for those newly s
Nothing at Abraham Lee's satisfies you?
https://www.musictypefoundry.com
Andrew
On 3/07/2020 10:48 pm, Paolo Prete wrote:
Hello,
1) Is there a GPL or open-source alternative for FETA fonts for accidentals
that can be used with Lilypond? (If so, is there an example of how to use
them)?
Thank you!
I really depend on the doco, so this this excellent.
On 28/07/2020 11:19 pm, Phil Holmes wrote:
Today we released build 2.21.4, the next development release of
LilyPond. Amongst other updates, this corrects the problems with the
documentation in the previous release.
All my browsers now show lilypond.org in Spanish all of a sudden this
evening. I'm pretty sure my computers are all set for English.
Any clues?
Andrew
Or perhaps that is Portuguese?
On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 21:53, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> All my browsers now show lilypond.org in Spanish all of a sudden this
> evening.
Please pardon me for asking this once again... but where does one find
the set of changes just for this release, not that long accumulated list
in the documentation? I have forgotten where this info is.
Andrew
On 18/08/2020 2:30 am, Shane Brandes wrote:
Looks like a lot of neat new stuff im
Didn't we establish these are the Catalan pages?
Andrew
On 20/08/2020 11:22 pm, Phil Holmes wrote:
If I go to
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.21/Documentation/notation/index.html and
click any of the links, I get a page in Spanish, which I'm not.
Anyone know why?
That can't be a tie because the second note would not have the
accidental, in general.
Gould is not always right in my view.
Andrew
On 26/09/2020 11:41 pm, Dan Eble wrote:
What kind of grob would an editor expect here? a Tie because it connects notes
of the same pitch, or a Slur because it
What is the point? What is wrong with the desktop programs? I don't
follow. If they have online access, don't they already have a computer?
Pardon me asking.
Andrew
On 23/10/2020 11:45 am, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
How difficult would it be to build a “Quick Note Entry” GUI that could work on
Oh, I see, the key point is you want _collaborative_ editing. That's a
hole other kettle of fish.
Andrew
On 23/10/2020 11:45 am, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
How difficult would it be to build a “Quick Note Entry” GUI that could work on
a served copy of Lilypond?
I don't think this concept is feasible without a mammoth effort of
work. However, this may pique your interest Keiran:
https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2018/03/web-midi-api/
Nothing is impossible.
Is it that you want more than one person to edit the LilyPond source
simultaneously? Sounds like a
Re contemporary notation, I disagree with this. I work professionally on
New Complexity School scores, and every composer has their own notation
and preferences and idiosyncrasies. Other contemporary schools all have
their own individual styles. We are nowhere near standardisation of the
sort t
The Scores of Beauty blog is non functional presently. I am trying to
contact the owner, with a vie to taking over the hosting and support and
management. Also, Urs is no longer involved due to personal issues.
Should we remove this item until further notice?
Andrew
What would be wrong with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, newer than 18 and EOL in 2025?
Andrew
Hello Leonid,
Re contemporary notation, others have answered, but I would like to chime in.
First let me say that Lilypond is extensible, via Scheme code and
functions. So there is very little that you cannot achieve, with work.
This requires an investment of time and learning Scheme, but you wil
Hi Leonid,
You wont get snippets into the baseline of Lilypond - that's a very long
drawn out process, naturally. But you can submit to Lilypond Snippet
Repository (LSR). People here will show you how. Also, there is the
OpenLilyLib project for somewhat more extensive code functions. I have
taken
Hi Leonid,
These are questions for the lilypond user list. Please repost there.
These are not development, but usage questions.
Also, having no subject messes up most mailers!
Andrew
Leonid Hrabovsky wrote on 31/01/2021 8:39 AM:
Hello gentlemen!
Is there a 64 bit OS X version of the lilypond application? If not, is
there any reason for that?
Andrew
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I am trying to build lilypond 2.19.82 from the source tarfile on Debian
9.6. I built guile 1.8.8 just fine.
Running configure, I am down to one issue:
ERROR: Please install required programs: GUILE-with-rational-bugfix
What is this and how to get it?
I searched the archives but the information
Thanks.
Only guile 1.8.8 in /usr/local. No guile 2 on the system. Debian 9.6.
ldconfig -p output:
ldconfig -p | grep guile
libguilereadline-v-17.so.17 (libc6,x86-64) =>
/usr/local/lib/libguilereadline-v-17.so.17
libguilereadline-v-17.so (libc6,x86-64) =>
/usr/local/lib/libguilereadline-
Hi David,
Well spotted Sir. The guile 1.8.8 install done by me was in fact half-baked
as you say, since the documentation did not build, and I was not interested
in that. But allowing make -k install to carry on libguile.h gets copied
and all now works.
Many thanks to your for your great assistan
Hi Étienne ,
The default is PDF, not PNG.
I applaud your desire to improve the SVG output, but do get the premise
right. Thanks!
Andrew
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 14:39, Étienne Beaulé
wrote:
>
> Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) is a vector graphics format designed for
> use on the internet. LilyP
It was over two and a half years ago I was about to launch into starting
off the upgrade of lilypond to use Python 3. Illness prevented me from
working on that shortly thereafter. I'd like to start it up again.
What is the current status of this work?
Using musicxlm2ly yesterday with lilypond 2.1
Starting out on GUB for the first time to look at python uplift. My build
fails. Is it the case that it needs python 2.4 (which is I suppose the
whole point of what I want to fix). I was unable to see the list of
prerequisite to setup gub. I am installing on my own Debian 9 system. is
this inadvisa
Thanks Federico. I'll give i a whirl.
Andrew
On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 01:52, Federico Bruni wrote:
> https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDevOS/releases/tag/v0.3
>
>
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Downloaded from github twice. I get this sum:
$ sha256sum lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
169270d9539202a90339aca91c6932195dcf474cff113db47aaa3cf6d5005476
lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
That does not match the SHA256SUMS file:
$ cat SHA256SUMS
7442b6788ae71eaef13b3f1e7e33150d3bc9fb1677226fd7d6c3cfd80d1f66a
Carrying on despite sha256sum mismatch, vboxmanage converts and does not
complain. Running up the image in Virtualbox 5.2 on Debian 9 and on Windows
10: no bootable image found.
Andrew
On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 23:25, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> Downloaded from github twice. I get this
Hi Federico,
A bit confusng then! Still does not explain why the image will not boot.
Any advice there?
Andrew
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 01:03, Federico Bruni wrote:
>
>
> Il giorno gio 13 dic 2018 alle 13:25, Andrew Bernard
> ha scritto:
> > Downloaded from github twi
Hi Federico,
Small steps but moving forward. Enabling EFI works, but it boots to a
prompt Shell>. Whjat next?
[I don't know anything about containers, but I am willing to learn. But it
would be goodo to get the VM machine going alos.]
Andrew
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 02:17, Federico Bruni wrote:
Ok. Just wanting to persist for the moment with a Vritualbox VM, I studied
up on how boot with a UEFI system. Previously I was just getting a Shell>
prompt. Now I understand you must create startup.nsh containing I think:
\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI
But when I restart with this script, it just prints t
Hi Federico,
I have installed Fedora 29 and Virtualbox 5.2. I have enabled EFI. I can
only make 32 VM's. I understand this is a common - but tricky - issue. Do
we need 64 bit? What architecture is the lilydev image? I could not find a
reference to that info. I run Virtualbox on Windows 10 host.
A
Thank you David. I have read all the many pages on the web on that topic!
Does not work for me. Perhaps my BIOS is incompatible (new machine,
though...)
Andrew
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 23:27, Davide Liessi wrote:
>
> If you have a 64 bit CPU but cannot make 64 bit VMs, you probably need
> to ena
as a guest on W10.
Andrew
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 23:53, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> Thank you David. I have read all the many pages on the web on that topic!
> Does not work for me. Perhaps my BIOS is incompatible (new machine,
> though...)
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On Fri, 14 D
5 Dec 2018 at 00:15, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> To clarify, on W10 host, I can make any 64 bit guestin Virtualbox. In a
> Fedora 29 or Debian 9 guest VM, Virtualbox 5.2 will not show 64 bit machine
> options, despite enabling VT-x/AMD-V in the vm machine settings.
>
> Running lilydev 0.3
Oops - the dev user and password is given on github.
Andrew
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 at 12:33, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> Re hanging VM, I tried downloading the Fedora VM for 0.2 release. It
> worked fine. I redownloaded the Debian release for 0.3 and now it works
> fine. Given the SHA su
How does one raise issues for the GUB github repo gperciva/gub? It would
appear that function has been disabled for that repo.
Andrew
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Looking at the latest BUG at gperciva/gub on guthub, the README references
a different, pehaps older repo:
ACQUIRING
The Git repository is at
http://github.com/janneke/gub
You can get it by doing
git clone git://github.com/janneke/gub.git
or download the latest tarball doing
wget http:
I am setup with lilydev 0.3, the latest release. I have installed gub from
github, current master. Gub bootstrap runs to completion with no errors.
Attempting to make lilypond, it fails as follows:
$ bin/gub lilypond
building package: linux-64::lilypond
*** Stage: download (lilypond, linux-64)
Hi All,
I am new to lilypond dev. work. My intention may be naive, but I am wanting
to do the work to uplift gub and lilypond to python 3. Am I premature, or
foolish, or misguided? I did have some encouraging email about this
previously, but I just wanted to check before I dive in and spend large
Hi Carl,
I'm on the case. This is the sort of work I can do. I have never been able
to get into the groove of lilypond internals for some reason, but this type
of system building tool is right up my alley.
Andrew
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 14:53, Carl Sorensen wrote:
>
> GUB provides us a pretty
In relation to the current thread I started in the user list about emacs
lilypond-mode, I find it frustrating that the indentation mode is so
incapable, and messes up my code very quickly (in terms of indentation
levels), yet Frescobaldi handles it splendidly.
David Kastrup has suggested that some
There's been a lot of long discussion about how to get gvim going with
point and click lately. I finally achieved this, but found the NR missing
important information, and to be ever so slightly in error. To that, I
wrote a fully fleshed out howto page on what to do. I posted it to the user
group,
l on behalf of Andrew Bernard"
> andrew.bern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There's been a lot of long discussion about how to get gvim going with
> point and click lately. I finally achieved this, but found the NR
> missing
> important information, and to be ever
Hi Federico,
Yes, I can generalise this to Linux not just Ubuntu.
There are bound to be mistakes in it!
Andrew
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 16:31, Federico Bruni wrote:
>
> I wanted to test your tutorial but I haven't had any spare time so far.
> I hope I'll have it soon.
> I noticed some imprecis
Just a heads up for those who build Guile 1.8 on Ubuntu themselves - the
new 19.04 release has an updated version of GNU readline. A simple
recompile addresses the problem of Guile failing on readline after this
upgrade.
Andrew
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Hi Benko,
That's a good book, but it is copyright 2002 Academic Press. So it is not
freely distributable.
Generally speaking, since the lilypond community is strongly committed to
open source and its philosophy, suggesting violations of copyright are not
highly regarded. I am sorry to sound like
What version of guile should I be using to build 2.21.0 on Ubuntu (or
indeed any Linux)?
Apologies for my ignorance, but it is not immediately obvious to me where
this is documented.
Andrew
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Thanks Carl,
Most appreciated. I came to figure that, and I have built from guile git
tag release_1-8-8 and all seems to go very well with 2.21.0.
Andrew
On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 13:53, Carl Sorensen wrote:
> 1.8
>
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Any news on a possible date for 2.20? Still indefinite?
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I hope my question is not impertinent!
Andrew
On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 09:21, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> Any news on a possible date for 2.20? Still indefinite?
>
> Andrew
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Hello All,
I asked the same on the user list, but no response. Is there any roadmap
as to when 2.20 may be released? Are there any plans to do so?
I KNOW we are very under-resourced. I'd very much like to help with the
development but I regret to say I have never been able to wrap my mind
ar
.
If the indication for lilypond is simply 'indefinite' that's alright,
but I would be keen to know.
Andrew
On 18/9/19 1:44 pm, Andrew Bernard wrote:
Hello All,
I asked the same on the user list, but no response. Is there any
roadmap as to when 2.20 may be released? Are ther
Thank you Carl.
Andrew
On 20/9/19 10:23 am, Carl Sorensen wrote:
We are stuck for release because GUB is not working properly. Until we get GUB
to work properly, we cannot make a release.
As far as I know now, the answer is in fact indefinite.
So let me get this straight.
It's not the case that GUB is completely broken. We can still build
releases.
DK is working steadily to cherry pick items for 2.20.
Python 2 to Python 3 is a major issue.
So, I offered to do the 2->3 port a long time ago but circumstances
prevented me from doing
See my post re this on the User list.
Andrew
MeasureAttachedSpanner is better. I often use span bars with no
barlines. It's the measure I am concerned about.
And don't forget that we Aussies and Brits call a measure a bar!
Andrew
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 06:21, wrote:
> I think the name should be changed from MeasureAttachedSpanner to
> Ba
Hi All,
I have seen lots of A0 posters for medical and scientific research
congresses. Here's an article that summarizes exactly what I think
about conference posters.
https://colinpurrington.com/tips/poster-design/
Andrew
Hi Malte,
\shapeII is a function I use heavily - heavily - in all my work. It's
indispensable for me at least. I'm very familiar with OpenLilyLib, and
contribute a bit to it, so it's not an issue for me, but that's a
function that really ought to go into lilypond core in my view.
As for newbies n
Nonce is a common word. I used it in an email on the user list just this
week. Nonce in crypto is used in the sense 'not once', and
compactification. But perhaps people today think it is an old fashioned
word.
OED:
"For the particular occasion; for the time being, temporarily; for once."
I'd
In 2.23.12 at least, there is an error for gvim (missing comma in list)
in the lilypond-invoke-editor script, and the column number for geany is
wrong as it numbers columns from zero not one.
While here, should we drop Atom from the list of editors as it is no
longer supported and discontinued
?)
Le 05/09/2022 à 11:49, Andrew Bernard a écrit :
In 2.23.12 at least, there is an error for gvim (missing comma in
list) in the lilypond-invoke-editor script, and the column number for
geany is wrong as it numbers columns from zero not one.
While here, should we drop Atom from the list of
I cant find out what tlasm is. It's a missing dependency for the build.
Google's indexing of billions of pages produces nothing, unless I am
dreaming. Could somebody help me understand what this program is and
where to find it?
../configure outputs:
ERROR: Please install required programs: t
Oh dear. It's t-one-asm, not t-ell-asm.
Sorry for the noise.
On 7/09/2022 6:19 pm, Andrew Bernard wrote:
I cant find out what tlasm is. It's a missing dependency for the
build. Google's indexing of billions of pages produces nothing, unless
I am dreaming. Could somebody hel
Hi Jonas,
I run the OpenLilyLib Discourse forum and have taken over from Urs
managing OLL (where more work will be happening soon!).
Is it too onerous to register with a username and password? It's totally
free. One cannot make forums totally open because of spammers, although
I may consider
Gosh, to both.
All are welcome to the OLL forum should they so feel like it.
One reason not to open a forum is that there are people who may not want
their postings disseminated and indexed, for whatever reason, even
though this instance is purely a technical discussion platform.
If you want
e, although that would be nice.]
Andrew Bernard
On 21/09/2022 4:29 pm, Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond
development wrote:
There is also https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6430 which
is a problem for OLL on Windows. I can't personally comment if it's
"
Where is the Frescobaldi mailing list? Do you mean Google Groups?
Andrew
On 20/01/2023 8:09 pm, Federico Bruni wrote:
The answer to the other questions is more complex. We are working on
it... I will reply to your question in the Frescobaldi mailing list.
Greetings all,
Answered my own previous question re build in Linux Mint 14.
This system requires the installation of the texlive-metapost package in
addition to the texlive packages to have the complete metapost setup.
Should this be added to the build requirements documentation?
Andrew
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What is the current situation regarding guile 2.0 support for lilypond
2.17.x?
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Sounds like a fine structure to me.
But, pray tell, why do you want to emulate exactly Henle Verlag 1980?
Lilypond does a better looking job than they did at that period IMHO.
cheerio!
Andrew
On 13/05/13 11:51 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hello all,
I'm working on putting together some "hous
I just last week threw out a whole pile of this exact RAM. Ironic.
Perhaps try ebay?
Andrew
On 24/05/13 11:04 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
Now my computer is about 5 years old, so chances are that people have
some memory useful for it just lying around, having upgraded to newer
systems. Accordin
Dear Phil,
Thanks. I’m aware that without passing you the score this will possibly never
get fixed. My issue occurs on Fedora 21, 22 and Mint 17, which is Ubuntu based.
At this point, I am going to try a binary chop debugging approach. I had hoped
the previous posting of the failed assertion me
Greetings All,
Current Python seems to be 2.4.5 as far as I can see. Is there any movement to
update it to say 2.7?
I have the time and inclination to make this development contribution. Are
there any fundamental objections? I’m aware it is a fairly large task.
Andrew
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grading to a contemporary Python would. I think, also encourage more users to
develop scripts and tools and so on.
Andrew
On 27/08/2015 18:20, "Phil Holmes" wrote:
>- Original Message -
>From: "Andrew Bernard"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, August 27,
While MEI may be ‘universal’ in intent, it is just an open source project.
Since lilypond is open source, it would make sense for the open source
community to cooperate.
But how many people use MEI, and how much traction has it gained? Is it
universally favoured? In other words, is consideratio
Hi Abraham,
There’s a great diversity of opinion here. I always turn it off. It’s not much
effort I suppose. But I would prefer if it behaved as the other header
variables do, off by default, and can be turned on and modified at will. Keep
the function, but make the default off.
Andrew
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What is the current status wirh respect to porting lilypond to use guile 2.*?
I am not seeking long disquisition on all the issues with guile 2, but rather
wondering if there is anything I can do to assist the progress.
Andrew
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Having experienced seg faults on the 2.19.46 download on openSUSE, now when
building it from source to troublehshoot the issue the build fails.
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/andro/src/lilypond-2.19.46/Documentation'
/home/andro/src/lilypond-2.19.46/scripts/build/out/run-and-check "LANG=
David,
Thank you very much for the explanation. I shall wait.
Andrew
On 1 August 2016 at 20:13, David Kastrup wrote:
> I don't think that at the current point of time there is anything more
> to do than wait for 2.19.47.
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Hi Trevor,
I can confirm the same behaviour on Mac OS X 10.11.6.
Running struss semi-equivalent dtruss seems like a nightmare on the mac -
all sorts of system restrictions prevent it. Not being a Mac developer I
am clueless as to how one runs a simple trace on the mac. Anybody who knows
Mac deve
.
All the best from Down Under!
Andrew Bernard
On 10 November 2016 at 04:09, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Hi folks and team,
>
> while I haven't really occupied an official function in LilyPond
> development, it's hard to deny that I have effectively functioned as
> actin
Hi Harm,
I have been wanting to launch into assisting with the guile 2 stuff for a
long time. Happy to help. If you can give me some quick pointers offline to
the exact set up of the environment we are using for this, I will help out.
I have _lots_ of time and a seriously fast machine.
Andrew
--
Hi All,
Moving a thread across from the user list, I just wanted to let people know
that I will be starting on the work of upgrading lilypond to use Python 3 -
yes, with all the complexity that entails. I am happy to have a serious
shot at this task.
Andrew
_
Greetings All,
I would be keen to know if anybody has any current thoughts on how to make
lilypond able to use typographical fonts from Skyfonts. There was a
discussion about this in the user list some time ago, with no resolution.
Skyfonts hides the fonts quite thoroughly from sight yet they a
Hi Sven,
Graces are a bit subtle. Try this:
== snip
\version "2.19.56"
\relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 {
c8. c16 c4 c2 |
}
\alternative {
{ \grace { c32 } c8. c16 c4 c2 | }
{ \grace { s32 } c8. c16 c4 c2 | }
}
c8. c16 c4 c2 |
}
== snip
On 3 March 2017 at 21:48, Sven A
Hi Urs,
My understanding of copyright is that the date range applies to the
published work as a whole, and does not operate on the granularity of
individual components. Furthermore, there is no legal requirement to
actually have a copyright notice at all, as works are naturally copyright
nowadays,
Hi All,
All good answers, but so much easier in perl!
Andrew
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Hi Federico,
I believe you are trying to automate a set of translations, correct? If so,
here's a way to do it in perl that avoids all the shell convolutions. I
assume you do know perl. If not, always worth knowing for this sort of
quick work.
Just add the translations to the hash table in the sc
Uinsg 2.19.60, suddenly my scores, not changed, show as rotated in
Frescobaldi 3.0.0. They were correclty shown as horizontal in all versions
up to now, using:
#(set-paper-size "a4" 'landscape)
What has happened?
Andrew
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And now I observe they are rotated in a plain PDF viewer also. So
Frescobaldi is not part of the plot.
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Reverting to 2.19.59 shows no problem. This sounds like a regression.
Andrew
On 10 May 2017 at 17:44, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> And now I observe they are rotated in a plain PDF viewer also. So
> Frescobaldi is not part of the plot.
>
Previously, the A4 landscape was presented in Frescobaldi as horizontal, as
one would expect. Now both Okular and Frescobaldi display it rotated 90
degrees, making it very hard to read. Whatever I am doing wrong, the
behaviour has changed. I verifed that. Is this supposed to be a correction
or an i
Ok, so now I see from ancient times that NR Section 4.1.2 distinguishes
between:
#(set-default-paper-size "a4" 'landscape)
and
#(set-default-paper-size "a4landscape")
And yet, unaware of this distinction, I have been using the first form for
a long time and it works just fine, displaying horizo
Apologies for the noise, but still curious to know what has changed from 59
to 60 in relation to paper rotation. I have to update all my scores.
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> Andrew Bernard writes:
>
> > Apologies for the noise, but still curious to know what has changed
> > from 59 to 60 in relation to paper rotation. I have to update all my
> > scores.
>
> I answered it a
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