Hi Malte, \shapeII is a function I use heavily - heavily - in all my work. It's indispensable for me at least. I'm very familiar with OpenLilyLib, and contribute a bit to it, so it's not an issue for me, but that's a function that really ought to go into lilypond core in my view.
As for newbies not using OpenLilyLib, you can't make such as assertion because you cannot say what their level of experience with computers and software is, so I don't think that's a pertinent point. Perhaps ois the NR had instructions for how to install and use OpenLilyLib as a powerful addon, then it make have more 'street cred' and become more widely used in the way it is intended, not just copy and paste of bits. I do think people see it as far outside Lilypond and don't want to get involved, somehow. Andrew On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 22:34, Malte Meyn <lilyp...@maltemeyn.de> wrote: > Am 04.01.20 um 12:29 schrieb Malte Meyn: > One could argue that openlilylib can be installed easily but users might > not want to install “addons” for basic tasks like this. (In fact, I have > never used openlilylib apart from copying definitions from the > definitions.ily files and I see myself as a advanced user; I don’t think > that many newbies will use oll …) > > Same argument for \shapeII. >