Re: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. (issue 6584045)

2012-10-02 Thread pkx166h
On 2012/10/02 03:02:15, aleksandr.andreev wrote: ... If we implement the patch as written, Kievan note heads outside of the KievanVoice context wouldn't make sense. I'm not altogether opposed to that (I see no real reason to not use KievanVoice), but it seems like a "policy" issue, as it wou

Re: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. (issue 6584045)

2012-10-02 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 2 oct. 2012, at 05:02, aleksandr.andr...@gmail.com wrote: > On 2012/10/01 23:34:39, MikeSol wrote: >> I think a user should be able to use Kievan notation and normal >> stems/flags/beams if she so chooses. I'll define something like > >> [snip] > >> and then use it in the documentation. > >

Re: [GLISS] basics

2012-10-02 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/9/24 Janek Warchoł : > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Francisco Vila wrote: >> 2012/9/24 Janek Warchoł : >>> I also think that it will take more than a week to collect all user >>> feedback. >> >> What about making a short survey in English which we'll translate for >> our lists? That woul

Re: [GLISS] basics

2012-10-02 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/10/2 Francisco Vila : > 2012/9/24 Janek Warchoł : >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Francisco Vila >> wrote: >>> 2012/9/24 Janek Warchoł : I also think that it will take more than a week to collect all user feedback. >>> >>> What about making a short survey in English which we'l

Re: [GLISS] basics

2012-10-02 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > I translated the questions as Janek proposed and posted them at the > german LilyPond-Forum. > http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1213.0 > I've got many replies. Some of them are very interesting. I plan to > post a commented list of the suggestions/complains next

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread dak
On 2012/10/02 03:38:42, dak wrote: On 2012/10/02 00:23:55, Graham Percival wrote: > https://codereview.appspot.com/6575048/diff/8001/ly/music-functions-init.ly > File ly/music-functions-init.ly (right): > > https://codereview.appspot.com/6575048/diff/8001/ly/music-functions-init.ly#newcode649

Re: Added \clef "treble_8" for guitar harmonics (issue 6588049)

2012-10-02 Thread benko . pal
LGTM https://codereview.appspot.com/6588049/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread k-ohara5a5a
Still looks good. \omit is better than \no because 'omit' is a verb like we use in parallel constructions \override, etc. A verb is appropriate because your function does perform an action: the \f is conceptually part of the music but your function omits it from the printed score. No is used in

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread dak
On 2012/10/02 11:01:52, Keith wrote: Still looks good. What does still look good? \omit is better than \no because 'omit' is a verb like we use in parallel constructions \override, etc. A verb is appropriate because your function does perform an action: the \f is conceptually part of the

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread pkx166h
I know \remove has been taken, but is it possible to make a function (?) know what the context of it's action is? Context not in the LP sense. That is if I use '\remove BLAH', the software 'knows' that it isn't the same as the \remove we also use as opposite of what we currently use \consists for

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread dak
On 2012/10/02 11:50:04, J_lowe wrote: I know \remove has been taken, but is it possible to make a function (?) know what the context of it's action is? \remove is a reserved word, so it is treated specially in the syntax. If we hypothesize that it was a function, determining its context would

Re: Doc: extend description of glissandi (2844) (issue 6567059)

2012-10-02 Thread benko . pal
having identical files in several directories looked suspicious to me, but if that's the way to have it, then LGTM. https://codereview.appspot.com/6567059/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/li

lilypond 2.16.0 and Windows 8 (enterprise)

2012-10-02 Thread James
Hello, Just an FYI, I was able to download install and run LP's test file with no problems, on Windows 8.x (Enterprise Edition), I am not sure if that is really significant vs Standard Edition but anyway. Just thought I'd share this. If that is 'good enough' we could update http://lilypond.org/

Re: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. (issue 6584045)

2012-10-02 Thread aleksandr . andreev
On 2012/10/02 07:28:10, J_lowe wrote: If you are talking about the Documentation in the Notation Reference, the Ancient Notation doesn't follow (mostly) the standard Policies at all - indeed there is a while tracker to tidy this section up, I started but I don't have any knowlegde of Ancien

Re: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. (issue 6584045)

2012-10-02 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 2 oct. 2012, at 16:42, aleksandr.andr...@gmail.com wrote: > What I mean is that if something like > > { > \override NoteHead #'style = #'kievan > c'8 > } > > produces a quarter note in the output, the user is likely to be > thoroughly confused. Is this because of the duration-log override?

Re: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. (issue 6584045)

2012-10-02 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 02.10.2012 16:56, schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: On 2 oct. 2012, at 16:42, aleksandr.andr...@gmail.com wrote: What I mean is that if something like { \override NoteHead #'style = #'kievan c'8 } produces a quarter note in the output, the user is likely to be thoroughly confused. Is this bec

Re: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. (issue 6584045)

2012-10-02 Thread aleksandr . andreev
On 2012/10/02 14:56:28, mike7 wrote: On 2 oct. 2012, at 16:42, mailto:aleksandr.andr...@gmail.com wrote: > What I mean is that if something like > > { > \override NoteHead #'style = #'kievan > c'8 > } > > produces a quarter note in the output, the user is likely to be > thoroughly confused.

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
@James: good question about \remove. @David: the example you gave helped me understand why the thing James asked about was not quite possible, thanks! It looks that the decision whether to use \omit or \no is really difficult. Personally i consider both of them valid, with slight preference for \

Re: Various clean-ups in stems and beams. (issue 6584045)

2012-10-02 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 2 oct. 2012, at 17:38, aleksandr.andr...@gmail.com wrote: > On 2012/10/02 14:56:28, mike7 wrote: >> On 2 oct. 2012, at 16:42, mailto:aleksandr.andr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > What I mean is that if something like >> > >> > { >> > \override NoteHead #'style = #'kievan >> > c'8 >> > } >> > >> >

Re: verify regression tests

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Marc, On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Marc Hohl wrote: > I got strange results with the regression tests, and studying the > CG more carefully, I spotted some differences: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/regtest-comparison > > says that you should do > > make test-

Re: [GLISS] basics

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/10/2 Francisco Vila : > Hey, has anyone translated/sent the survey? Should we re-take this > interesting initiative? Definitely! There is no polish-speaking mailing list, but i know a few polish users and i'll ask them. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: > Hi Francisco,

pitch spelling

2012-10-02 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, I found this interesting document: http://www.titanmusic.com/papers/public/meredith-dphil-final.pdf It's about pitch spelling algorithms: how to automatically determine if a note should be called C# or Db for example. Maybe it can inspire someone to use such advanced methods as dscribed

Allow \shape to tweak music, swap its arguments (issue 6585052)

2012-10-02 Thread david . nalesnik
LGTM https://codereview.appspot.com/6585052/diff/1/input/regression/shape-other-curves.ly File input/regression/shape-other-curves.ly (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/6585052/diff/1/input/regression/shape-other-curves.ly#newcode18 input/regression/shape-other-curves.ly:18: \override Phra

PATCH: Countdown to 20121004

2012-10-02 Thread Colin Campbell
For 20:00 MDT Thursday October 4 Enhancement: Issue 2871 : Patch: Don't clone output definitions across sessions - R 6597052 Issue 2872

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread Keith OHara
On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 04:42:59 -0700, wrote: On 2012/10/02 11:01:52, Keith wrote: Still looks good. What does still look good? The code, with either choice of naming. http://codereview.appspot.com/6575048/#msg4>, so I'd like to see the points made in comment #4 countered for swaying the de

Re: Syntax clarification/change/improvement for -d[value]

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi James, On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:06 PM, James wrote: > I guess this is part of what GLISS is, currently issue 2139 wants to > clarify some usage options > > [...] suggestion: > > -dvar=val, --define-default=var=val > > and consequently for all the other command line options: > > -eexpression,

Re: pitch spelling

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > I found this interesting document: > > http://www.titanmusic.com/papers/public/meredith-dphil-final.pdf Curious indeed! > It's about pitch spelling algorithms: how to automatically determine if a > note should be called C# or Db for exam

Re: Allow \shape to tweak music, swap its arguments (issue 6585052)

2012-10-02 Thread janek . lilypond
i've skimmed over the discussion in http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2858 and i'm confused. Do we want to change \shape GrobName #'offsets into \shape #'offsets GrobName or \shape #'offsets (used as a tweak, with GrobName being guessed)? Janek http://codereview.appspot.com/658

Re: Provide define-session and define-session-public commands (issue 6588056)

2012-10-02 Thread janek . lilypond
Could you modify the commit message so that it says why we need this change? After reading the comments in your code i don't understant what's its purpose. http://codereview.appspot.com/6588056/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org h

Re: Provide define-session and define-session-public commands (issue 6588056)

2012-10-02 Thread dak
On 2012/10/03 05:10:27, janek wrote: Could you modify the commit message so that it says why we need this change? It's not really a change but an API to something you had to do by hand previously if you were working on .scm files providing user customization in some manner (and there are a numb

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread dak
On 2012/10/03 04:04:07, Keith wrote: If you name it '\hide', I'll probably make an '\unHide' to revert the stencil. If you name it \no, I'll name the stencil-restoring function '\restore'. You can paint your shed whatever color you like. \hide and \no are for different purposes (so far, \h

Re: Provide define-session and define-session-public commands (issue 6588056)

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:01 AM, wrote: > On 2012/10/03 05:10:27, janek wrote: >> After reading the comments in your code i don't understant what's its >> purpose. > > Sounds like I should rather delete the comments... oh, no! They are well-written and provide insight into your code. It's just t

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:15 AM, wrote: > Given existing naming choices, \hide/\unHide is an obvious pairing. > \omit/unOmit would be logical but awkward, I'd lead towards > \omit/\remit. Whoah, i didn't know that "remit" is a proper English word! Sounds like "Kermit" to me... :P (frankly, one of

Re: Provide \hide and \no functions for transparent and void glyphs (issue 6575048)

2012-10-02 Thread Keith OHara
On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:15:23 -0700, wrote: \hide and \no are for different purposes Oops, I forgot we were talking about the name 'no' for the function '\omit'. The command to restore the stencil could be \unOmit or \restore. I had to look up \remit in the dictionary, and couldn't find any

Re: lilypond 2.16.0 and Windows 8 (enterprise)

2012-10-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:09 PM, James wrote: > Hello, > > Just an FYI, I was able to download install and run LP's test file > with no problems, on Windows 8.x (Enterprise Edition), I am not sure > if that is really significant vs Standard Edition but anyway. > > Just thought I'd share this. than