What a coincidence!

2012-08-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Andy Wingo, the driving force behind Guile, is talking in St. Augustin, which is about 90min away from David's location in Waltrop (using a car; with public transport it takes 3 hours), during the big LilyPond weekend: http://wingolog.org/archives/2012/08/15/quasiconf-2012-lisp-froscon His 90

Re: What a coincidence!

2012-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: > Andy Wingo, the driving force behind Guile, is talking in > St. Augustin, which is about 90min away from David's location in > Waltrop (using a car; with public transport it takes 3 hours), during > the big LilyPond weekend: > > http://wingolog.org/archives/2012/08/15/q

Re: Tidies binary relocation (issue 6463066)

2012-08-19 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Tidies binary relocation (issue 6463066) On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 03:40:19PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: To: ; Cc: ; >

Re: Tidies binary relocation (issue 6463066)

2012-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > I think we should do some sweeping up in cobwebby corners, if we can. > In particular, when we can't find any reason for the code to be there > in the first place. I've not worked out yet how to get git to show > which commit put that code in. If someone could either do

Re: Tidies binary relocation (issue 6463066)

2012-08-19 Thread James
On 19 Aug 2012, at 10:27, "Phil Holmes" wrote: -- -- > - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" > > To: "Phil Holmes" > Cc: ; ; ; > > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: Tidies binary relocation (issue 6463066) > > >> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 03:40:19PM +0100,

Re: Removes popen3 deprecated warning (issue 6471043)

2012-08-19 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" To: "Graham Percival" ; "Phil Holmes" Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Removes popen3 deprecated warning (issue 6471043) Graham Percival wrote Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:34 PM On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 0

Re: Finding Century fonts

2012-08-19 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 18 août 2012, at 23:40, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> Is there a way I can check how LilyPond is handling paths for looking >> for fonts? > > Try iosnoop. > > >Werner 501 87297 W 840990920 221184 lilypond ??/bidouillage/bar.ps 501 87298 W 840991352 32768 gs ??/bidouillage/

Re: Finding Century fonts

2012-08-19 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 19 août 2012, at 01:30, David Kastrup wrote: > "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > >> On 18 août 2012, at 19:59, John Mandereau wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> Il giorno sab, 18/08/2012 alle 19.38 -0400, m...@mikesolomon.org ha >>> scritto: In the Mac OS X build I did of the LilyPond source L

Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread ianhulin44
Do we need to add anything to the standard .gitignore for these? They're files in the git directories for developers developing the kit rather than users writing code. Quite a lot of developers have the build directory within the git tree. There are already .el files in the kit for lilypond mod

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread dak
Reviewers: Ian Hulin (gmail), Message: On 2012/08/19 12:12:36, Ian Hulin (gmail) wrote: Do we need to add anything to the standard .gitignore for these? Why should we? This adds just one file which _should_ be checked out. They're files in the git directories for developers developing the k

Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
Details are still somewhat fuzzy since I don't have all that much feedback concerning who will arrive when and leave, but there are some corner points. Apparently Janek will be arriving in advance. No details yet as to his exact travel time and accommodation wishes: like anybody else not having

Re: What a coincidence!

2012-08-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I doubt it would work well if I tried this myself, judging from our > last attempts at communication. > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2012-06/msg00116.html> You definitely have a talent for creating such situations :-) Werner __

Re: Tidies binary relocation (issue 6463066)

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:27:37AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" > > To: "Phil Holmes" > >OTOH, I don't think that we should delete bits of code unless we > >know why they were there in the first place. There's just so many > >dark corners of li

Re: Finding Century fonts

2012-08-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> 501 87297 W 840990920 221184 lilypond ??/bidouillage/bar.ps > 501 87298 W 840991352 32768 gs ??/bidouillage/bar.pdf > 501 87298 W 840991432 28672 gs ??/T/gs_Rm4DT4 > 501 87298 W 840991432 32768 gs ??/T/gs_UASlO9 > 501 87298 W 840991432 4096 gs ??/

Doc: added link to enc2ly (issue 2706) (issue 6448169)

2012-08-19 Thread frederic . bron . 1995
Reviewers: , Message: Issue 2706 fixed. Question: should we sort alphabetically the list under "Programs that can export LilyPond code" in the following webpage? It looks like a mess. http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/web-big-page.html Description: Doc: added link to enc2ly (issue

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Rodolfo Zitellini
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:02 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > > Details are still somewhat fuzzy since I don't have all that much > feedback concerning who will arrive when and leave, but there are some > corner points. > > Apparently Janek will be arriving in advance. No details yet as to his > exact

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 03:02:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > The schedule would focus on stable release work and criteria on Friday, > with the goal of getting most participants hands-on experience or at > least exposure to GUB work. Coursework goal is the release of 2.16, and > getting the

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread graham
Could you add a script (either shell or python) which applies this formatting to all scheme files in the repository? I'd like to see how that changes the scheme files. http://codereview.appspot.com/6460109/diff/3001/.dir-locals.el File .dir-locals.el (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/646

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread ianhulin44
On 2012/08/19 12:37:38, dak wrote: On 2012/08/19 12:12:36, Ian Hulin (gmail) wrote: > Do we need to add anything to the standard .gitignore for these? Why should we? This adds just one file which _should_ be checked out. > They're files in the git directories for developers developing the

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread dak
http://codereview.appspot.com/6460109/diff/3001/.dir-locals.el File .dir-locals.el (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6460109/diff/3001/.dir-locals.el#newcode6 .dir-locals.el:6: (indent-tabs-mode)) On 2012/08/19 16:02:31, Graham Percival wrote: Does this mean what I think it means? No, it

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread dak
On 2012/08/19 16:07:28, Ian Hulin (gmail) wrote: On 2012/08/19 12:37:38, dak wrote: > I don't get the point you are trying to make. Sorry for being obtuse. I'd like your patch description to say more and give answers to some of the following questions. Who is the target audience for t

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 19.08.2012 15:02, schrieb David Kastrup: Details are still somewhat fuzzy since I don't have all that much feedback concerning who will arrive when and leave, but there are some corner points. Apparently Janek will be arriving in advance. No details yet as to his exact travel time and accomm

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 04:50:54PM +, d...@gnu.org wrote: > On 2012/08/19 16:07:28, Ian Hulin (gmail) wrote: > >Where is it going to end up after a make install run and where will it > be > >delivered when the binaries are built and run? > > Huh?!?!?!? It has nothing to do whatsoever with "ma

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi David, I thought I'd been polite in framing my questions. Statements like "Huh?" and "Huh?!?!?!?" come over as very rude. If you're puzzled why I'm asking them, just say so. See below for specifics. On 19/08/12 17:50, d...@gnu.org wrote: > On 2012/08/19 16:07:28, Ian Hulin (gmail) wrote: >>

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Wow, this sounds very interesting and I am really sad, that I can not join this meeting. Will you record and publish parts on video or audio? Well, of course there has to be a somewhat recordable prepared presentation ... someone preparing and presenting. I hope you have a somewhat successful m

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > And yes, I'll take my guitar with me, and my wife will be joining, > too, but not the lilypond meeting – she'll take the car and will do > some day trips around Waltrop. I hope she'll be back in time each > night so I have a place to sleep ;-) If you don't want her to get too

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 19/08/2012 alle 16.02 +, gra...@percival-music.ca ha scritto: > Could you add a script (either shell or python) which applies this > formatting to all scheme files in the repository? I'd like to see how > that changes the scheme files. You can try running (after having applied

Re: Removes popen3 deprecated warning (issue 6471043)

2012-08-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes > See my other note - if you have stashes of your installs, have a look at > > C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\lib\python2.4\config\config.c > > You'll see that at 15.18 there's no mention of msvcrt but in 15.21 it's > there. So something (but I don't know what) caused us to s

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 19.08.2012 19:12, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: And yes, I'll take my guitar with me, and my wife will be joining, too, but not the lilypond meeting – she'll take the car and will do some day trips around Waltrop. I hope she'll be back in time each night so I have a place to slee

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:02 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > > Details are still somewhat fuzzy since I don't have all that much > feedback concerning who will arrive when and leave, but there are some > corner points. > > Apparently Janek will be arriving in advance. No details yet as to his > exact

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
John Mandereau writes: > Il giorno dom, 19/08/2012 alle 16.02 +, gra...@percival-music.ca ha > scritto: >> Could you add a script (either shell or python) which applies this >> formatting to all scheme files in the repository? I'd like to see how >> that changes the scheme files. > > You can

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi John and David, If you take this on, John, or if David decides to revisit this, can you add something like this to the detailed description of the issue: "This patch adds a new file dir-locals.el to the root directory of the git repository. It is intended for LilyPond developers who use Emacs.

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 19/08/2012 alle 22.34 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > John Mandereau writes: > > emacs -batch scm/*.scm --eval '(progn (delete-trailing-whitespace) > > (indent-region (point-min) (point-max) nil) (untabify (point-min) > > (point-max)) (save-buffer))' [snip] > indent-tabs-mode

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 19/08/2012 alle 21.57 +0100, Ian Hulin ha scritto: > Hi John and David, > If you take this on, John, or if David decides to revisit this, can > you add something like this to the detailed description of the issue: > > "This patch adds a new file dir-locals.el to the root directory o

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 19/08/2012 alle 18.06 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > I think that Ian's confusion is understandable. Files inside > elisp/*.el are mostly not intended for developers. At least, > stuff like elisp/lilypond-mode.el seems to be aimed directly at > end-users, not developers. > >

Issue 2758. ly_module_lookup caused deprecation warnings with Guile V2.06. (issue 6458159)

2012-08-19 Thread ianhulin44
Reviewers: , Message: Cleaned up garbage in Subject and Description Fields. Description: Issue 2758. ly_module_lookup caused deprecation warnings with Guile V2.06. The V2.17.0 definition of ly_module_lookup in module-scheme.cc uses two functions, scm_sym2var and scm_module_lookup_closure, which

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
John Mandereau writes: > Il giorno dom, 19/08/2012 alle 18.06 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: >> I think that Ian's confusion is understandable. Files inside >> elisp/*.el are mostly not intended for developers. At least, >> stuff like elisp/lilypond-mode.el seems to be aimed directly at >>

Re: Finding Century fonts

2012-08-19 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 19 août 2012, at 09:26, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> 501 87297 W 840990920 221184 lilypond ??/bidouillage/bar.ps >> 501 87298 W 840991352 32768 gs ??/bidouillage/bar.pdf >> 501 87298 W 840991432 28672 gs ??/T/gs_Rm4DT4 >> 501 87298 W 840991432 32768 gs ??/T/gs_

Re: Finding Century fonts

2012-08-19 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno dom, 19/08/2012 alle 20.28 -0400, m...@mikesolomon.org ha scritto: > Nothing to do with iosnoop, but I did some snooping in the code base and I > can't figure out why LilyPond wouldn't raise an error if it doesn't find a > font. In all-font-metrics.cc, there is: [snip] > So it must f

Re: Finding Century fonts

2012-08-19 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 19 août 2012, at 20:58, John Mandereau wrote: > Il giorno dom, 19/08/2012 alle 20.28 -0400, m...@mikesolomon.org ha > scritto: >> Nothing to do with iosnoop, but I did some snooping in the code base and I >> can't figure out why LilyPond wouldn't raise an error if it doesn't find a >> font.

Re: Doc: added link to enc2ly (issue 2706) (issue 6448169)

2012-08-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
While you are at it, you could add https://github.com/hanwen/go-enc2ly here too. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:07 PM, wrote: > Reviewers: , > > Message: > Issue 2706 fixed. > Question: should we sort alphabetically the list under "Programs that > can export LilyPond code" in the following webpage? I

PATCH: Countdown to 20120821

2012-08-19 Thread Colin Campbell
For 22:00 MDT Tuesday August 21 (I may be going fishing with the World's Finest Grand-Nipper, so later than usual) Build: Issue 2756 : Patch: Tidies binary relocation - R6463066 Issue 2755

Re: line_count related patches in a single commit for review (issue 6419064)

2012-08-19 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-08-17 06:14 AM, Benkő Pál wrote: hi all, Keith, I hope I fixed lyrics-bar.ly. Yes, it comes out nicely. 1. in repeat-sign.ly the thick-lined staff has now the dots outside of staff, while the c++ version had it inside - there may be a difference how line-thickness is handled.

Re: line_count related patches in a single commit for review (issue 6419064)

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 20.08.2012 07:30, schrieb Colin Campbell: On 12-08-17 06:14 AM, Benkő Pál wrote: hi all, [...] ok, I applied this (and did a bit of restructuring to keep lyrics-bar.ly the way we like). I also changed those regtests that show where's the change of dot placement inside or outside staff. I

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno lun, 20/08/2012 alle 00.39 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > The only reasonable way to address the amount and kind of concerns > voiced here is not to apply the patch. Instead, one should likely > explain in CG how to use M-x add-dir-local-variable RET to achieve its > equivalent. In

Re: GOP2-4 - C++ and scheme indentation (probable decision)

2012-08-19 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham Percival writes: > I'm sorry, but I am quite confused. Ah, good. > If I understand this paragraph correctly, then there has been a > large communication problem. I am not proposing that we document > manual procedures. Instead, I am proposing that we use automatic > formatting for schem

Re: Use directory-local variables to establish some coding styles in Emacs (issue 6460109)

2012-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
John Mandereau writes: > Il giorno lun, 20/08/2012 alle 00.39 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: >> The only reasonable way to address the amount and kind of concerns >> voiced here is not to apply the patch. Instead, one should likely >> explain in CG how to use M-x add-dir-local-variable RET to