Re: Can't compile docs

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > Here's the file itself. Good news, very good news, and bad news. 1. your patch is fine. 2. you're not crazy. I've reproduced the error in lilydev with current git. 3. I haven't solved the problem yet. Interestingly, there's absolutely no pro

Re: german website problems

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:25:48PM +0200, Till Paala wrote: >> It appears strange to me to get suddenly this kind of errors when I >> didn't do changes, > > I only check once every couple of months.  It might have broken > last October (or e

Re: Fix 1464 (segfault with R1 and metronome) (issue3858041)

2011-01-07 Thread percival . music . ca
Any other comments about this? I'm aware of some discussion here about get_parent: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-01/msg00057.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-01/msg00055.html is this a reason not to accept the patch as it currently stands? As fa

Re: german website problems

2011-01-07 Thread Till Paala
Am 07.01.11 10:46, schrieb Graham Percival: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:25:48PM +0200, Till Paala wrote: It appears strange to me to get suddenly this kind of errors when I didn't do changes, I only check once every couple of months. It

Re: Correct convert-ly of page spacing (issue3793046)

2011-01-07 Thread k-ohara5a5a
New patch set is up. you're changing the rules for the 2.13.10 conversion? ... but I guess it makes sense in this case. so that older files which have not yet been through convert-ly get the affected variables converted to staff-spaces. A couple reg-tests already got convert-ly-marked >2.13

Re: mensural notation improvements (issue3797046)

2011-01-07 Thread Benkő Pál
> if it helps to confirm that you are right, I might add my own experience > with mensural sources. Composers/writers seem to literally avoid dotted > notes in ligatures except (a) at the end of the ligature, or (b) on top > of the first note of an obliqua, or (c) both.  (a) and (b) are frequent, >

Text at linebreaks

2011-01-07 Thread Phil Holmes
Another one of my noobie early questions was about long text markup being lost over the edge of the page when it was at the end of a line. I was advised to check the learning manual and duly found section 4.6.5 where it advises that you can use: \override PaperColumn #'keep-inside-line = ##t

Re: Text at linebreaks

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 09:48:09AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > to avoid this, at the penalty of performance. I now have these 2 > lines in my Lily source the whole time. However, I've just tried > compiling a 500 bar, 30 page, 19 voice piece of music and compared > the processor time with and wit

Re: Text at linebreaks

2011-01-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Text at linebreaks On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 09:48:09AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: to avoid this, at the penalty of performance. I now have these 2 lines in my Lily

Re: Text at linebreaks

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:53:41AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > It was just a normal score - the Finale of Act I of The Gondoliers. > And this is part of the point - it may be that you can construct a > test file that would impact performance more, but why bother? On a > normal score with performer

Re: Text at linebreaks

2011-01-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Text at linebreaks On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:53:41AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: It was just a normal score - the Finale of Act I of The Gondoliers. And this is pa

Re: mensural notation improvements (issue3797046)

2011-01-07 Thread Robert Memering
Am 07.01.2011 10:17, schrieb Benkő Pál: >> Sometimes I have been confused by a punctus divisionis placed in the >> middle above a ligature, but of course that's something different. > > wow, I have never seen such a thing! could you give an example? The only one I could find quickly is from Apel

Re: Text at linebreaks

2011-01-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, January 07, 2011 11:01 AM I'd quite like to go with a "default good output; optional poor output but faster processing" policy. +1 Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/

RE: Can't compile docs

2011-01-07 Thread James Lowe
Hello, From: lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Graham Percival [gra...@percival-music.ca] Sent: 07 January 2011 08:38 To: Phil Holmes Cc: Lily devel Subject: Re: Can't co

make loses $(src-dir) part of $

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Percival
Highly odd make behaviour here. We seem to have a problem when running "make doc" inside virtualbox lilydev. Nobody (including myself) has seen this problem in their normal lilypond development, but I can reproduce it occasionally inside lilydev. I've modified the top of my make/doc-i18n-root-

Re: make loses $(src-dir) part of $

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > Highly odd make behaviour here.  We seem to have a problem when Forgot to mention: - running "make doc", i.e. no -j options. - system has a single virtualized CPU - 3.6 gigs free out of 7.5 gigs - I just tried a new build, and it completed

RE: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread James Lowe
hello, From: lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of James Lowe [james.l...@datacore.com] Sent: 07 January 2011 13:03 To: Lukas Pietsch; lilypond-devel@gnu.org Subject: RE: Black

RE: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Lukas Pietsch
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 13:08 +, James Lowe wrote: > > I ran this with 2.13.45 and it compiles with some warnings (see > attached zip of log file). > > However, this is wonderful stuff! > > Also your PDF is very informative and it would be nice to incorporate > this into our own Notation R

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/7/11 7:00 AM, "Lukas Pietsch" wrote: > On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 13:08 +, James Lowe wrote: > >> >> I ran this with 2.13.45 and it compiles with some warnings (see >> attached zip of log file). >> >> However, this is wonderful stuff! >> >> Also your PDF is very informative and it woul

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Karl Hammar
James Lowe: ... > Lukas (although for some reason I am getting bounces from your email address > so I hope you are reading this on the lists)! Lukas cannot do anything about this except changing mail provider. The mailing list should be fine. You can do something by making sure the sending mail

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Lukas Pietsch
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 07:10 -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > > > Thanks a lot! As for the warnings, I too was getting the "cannot align > > on self: empty element" ones, and found no way of getting rid of them. > > Maybe it's something to do with Lilypond not liking the way I removed > > the standa

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
I've added comments about the need for the horizontal-padding in the distance call to be used with System grobs, and I've moved the skyline-horizontal-padding from an override to a default value for the System grob. I think this should make everything work right out of the box now, without requir

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Benkő Pál
hi all, > As for how to proceed from here, I'm not quite sure, since "my" system > now stands rather outside the normal architecture and its development > process, and since consolidating it further would probably duplicate > some of the work Pál has been doing on the white notation. Probably the

[Patch] Fix for Issue 879

2011-01-07 Thread Phil Holmes
I believe the attached patch fixes issue 879. Don't think it's a big deal, but it was flagged as a frog task so I thought I'd contribute. I have run my own regtest checker against the regtests and there were no differences. Please could someone with git access check and push if it's OK. -- P

Re: Potential fix for issue 37

2011-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I'm not exactly sure what the desired output would be for issue 37, > but my code assumes that if there are collision problems, flat beams > look best. +1 Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailma

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread joeneeman
http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/2001/lily/skyline.cc File lily/skyline.cc (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/2001/lily/skyline.cc#newcode396 lily/skyline.cc:396: if ((i->slope_ == 0) && !isinf (i->y_intercept_) && i->y_intercept_ >= 0) On 2011/01/03 03:48:09, Carl wro

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/7/11 9:47 AM, "joenee...@gmail.com" wrote: > > > http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/2001/lily/skyline.cc > File lily/skyline.cc (right): > > http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/2001/lily/skyline.cc#newcode396 > lily/skyline.cc:396: if ((i->slope_ == 0) && !isinf (i->y_in

Re: Potential fix for issue 37

2011-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> I'm not exactly sure what the desired output would be for issue 37, >> but my code assumes that if there are collision problems, flat beams >> look best. > > +1 Don't agree: the beams usually give an impression of the overall pitch tendency. Flat beams over a rising me

RE: Potential fix for issue 37

2011-01-07 Thread James Lowe
From: lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of David Kastrup [...@gnu.org] Sent: 07 January 2011 17:15 To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Potential fix for issue 37 Werner L

Re: Potential fix for issue 37

2011-01-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 7 January 2011 16:14, wrote: > I'm not exactly sure what the desired output would be for issue 37, but my > code assumes that if there are collision problems, flat beams look best. > > Lemme know what you think! Looks interesting, though you need to do a regression test check to make sure th

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 7 January 2011 02:50, Andrew Hawryluk wrote: > I tried running it on a current development snapshot this week, but it > didn't have enough memory to run nicely and bogged down my computer > with swap traffic (I've got 2 MB here). I gave up on it before it > finished. Does it take long to compil

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Lukas Pietsch
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 17:50 +, Neil Puttock wrote: > On 7 January 2011 02:50, Andrew Hawryluk wrote: > > I tried running it on a current development snapshot this week, but it > > didn't have enough memory to run nicely and bogged down my computer > > with swap traffic (I've got 2 MB here). I

RE: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread James Lowe
Hello, From: lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Lukas Pietsch [lukas.piet...@freenet.de] Sent: 07 January 2011 18:21 To: Neil Puttock Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Subject: R

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 7 January 2011 18:40, James Lowe wrote: > I ran it on Windows 2.13.44 (not 45 as I first said) and it took a few > seconds to complile and roughly 150Mb. Windows 2.13.44 also works fine here, though I can't say the same for 2.13.45: Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal numbe

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Benkő Pál
> Windows 2.13.44 also works fine here, though I can't say the same for 2.13.45: > > Preprocessing graphical objects... > Finding the ideal number of pages... > Fitting music on 1 or 2 pages... > This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. > Please contact the appl

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 7 January 2011 20:27, Benkő Pál wrote: > it may be related to Joe's recent patch 777066 about page > breaking. I can't compile my larger scores, it stops at the > same message and memory usage goes to the skies.  I wanted > to investigate it a bit more, but if anybody beats me... I'm looking

Re: Issue 1268 in lilypond: [PATCH] span-bar problem

2011-01-07 Thread Benkő Pál
hi Joe, >> > need to be careful about what happens when bar-size is set. >> > Currently, your patch will break (for example) input/regression/drums.ly >> > because it ignores bar-size. >> >> well, I think extent shouldn't be computed from size >> as it loses information, but the other way round. >

stringTunings documentation

2011-01-07 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Carl, The docstring for stringTunings is incorrect following the changes you've made: "The tablature strings tuning. It is a list of the pitch (in semitones) of each string (starting with the lower one." Cheers, Neil ___ lilypond-devel mailing lis

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 7 January 2011 20:33, Neil Puttock wrote: > On 7 January 2011 20:27, Benkő Pál wrote: > >> it may be related to Joe's recent patch 777066 about page >> breaking. I can't compile my larger scores, it stops at the >> same message and memory usage goes to the skies.  I wanted >> to investigate it

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread n . puttock
Hi Carl, Do we have to set a default for skyline-horizontal-padding? It has a detrimental effect on some of the regtests (particularly stem-length-estimation.ly). Cheers, Neil http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list li

Re: [PATCH] Allow \markuplines to be assigned to a variable

2011-01-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 4 January 2011 14:33, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > mmm = \markup "blah" > \markup \mmm     % works > \mmm             % doesn't work This is a special case since \markup "blah" returns a string rather than a markup (using simple_string ()). It works if you wrap the string in braces: mmm = \m

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread n . puttock
http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/27001/input/regression/skyline-horizontal-padding.ly File input/regression/skyline-horizontal-padding.ly (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/27001/input/regression/skyline-horizontal-padding.ly#newcode12 input/regression/skyline-horizont

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Benkő Pál
> This seems to work (at least, the regtests are OK and it doesn't > appear to break the interaction between page-count and > systems-per-page): [...] > I don't know why, though. :) it works for me in the sense that there's no memory problem, but doesn't work in the sense that now I get an overflo

Re: stringTunings documentation

2011-01-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/7/11 2:34 PM, "Neil Puttock" wrote: > Hi Carl, > > The docstring for stringTunings is incorrect following the changes you've > made: > > "The tablature strings tuning. It is a list of the pitch (in > semitones) of each string (starting with the lower one." Thanks, Neil. I've changed

Re: Black mensural notation

2011-01-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 7 January 2011 14:00, Lukas Pietsch wrote: > Thanks a lot! As for the warnings, I too was getting the "cannot align > on self: empty element" ones, and found no way of getting rid of them. They're caused by the following lines: \override Score.BarLine #'stencil = #empty-stencil \override

Re: Potential issue 39 fix w/ patch

2011-01-07 Thread Keith OHara
Original Message > From: "Mike Solomon" > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:03 AM > Mike, The patch moves 8th notes unnecessarily. The patch breaks the collision resolution of dotted notes. If you have to move the notehead, you're moving it the wrong direction. Test musi

Re: Potential fix for issue 37

2011-01-07 Thread Jan Warchoł
2011/1/7 > I'm not exactly sure what the desired output would be for issue 37, but my > code assumes that if there are collision problems, flat beams look best. > > Lemme know what you think! Judging by my very own personal taste i'd say that when notes are not on the same staffline it would lo

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/7/11 2:41 PM, "n.putt...@gmail.com" wrote: > Hi Carl, > > Do we have to set a default for skyline-horizontal-padding? It has a > detrimental effect on some of the regtests (particularly > stem-length-estimation.ly). Well, no, we don't. However, the original bug says that we're crowding s

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread k-ohara5a5a
http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/27001/scm/define-grobs.scm File scm/define-grobs.scm (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/27001/scm/define-grobs.scm#newcode1940 scm/define-grobs.scm:1940: (skyline-horizontal-padding . 2) too big for a default. I suggest 0.5. A horizon

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
Thanks for the feedback. I've responded to each of the suggestions you've given me. Carl http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/27001/input/regression/skyline-horizontal-padding.ly File input/regression/skyline-horizontal-padding.ly (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/3832046/diff/270

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
On 2011/01/07 21:41:51, Neil Puttock wrote: Hi Carl, Do we have to set a default for skyline-horizontal-padding? It has a detrimental effect on some of the regtests (particularly stem-length-estimation.ly). I've set the default to 0.5, in accordance with Keith's suggestions. It leaves stem

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread Keith OHara
Original Message > From: "Carl Sorensen" > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:28 PM > > I was hoping that by setting the default, we'd get good spacing and we > wouldn't need the override. > I hadn't seen this exchange when I commented on the define-grobs.scm; sorry. The larg

Re: Issue 1268 in lilypond: [PATCH] span-bar problem

2011-01-07 Thread Joe Neeman
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Benkő Pál wrote: > > Good idea! I have to figure out the centering issues and how to convert > SCM to Interval, but this is a nice way. > robust_scm2interval ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http:/

Re: Potential fix for issue 37

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Solomon
Kinda meh, but it gets the job done!  I've included three patches, including the original.The second preserves the flat beams but gets rid of the crashing lily, whereas the third implements some bendiness.Cheers,MS 0003-Second-pass-on-potential-fix-for-issue-37.patch Description: Binary data 000

Re: [Patch] Fix for Issue 879

2011-01-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/7/11 8:28 AM, "Phil Holmes" wrote: > I believe the attached patch fixes issue 879. Don't think it's a big deal, > but it was flagged as a frog task so I thought I'd contribute. I have run > my own regtest checker against the regtests and there were no differences. > Please could someone

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/7/11 4:28 PM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: > On 1/7/11 2:41 PM, "n.putt...@gmail.com" wrote: > >> Hi Carl, >> >> Do we have to set a default for skyline-horizontal-padding? It has a >> detrimental effect on some of the regtests (particularly >> stem-length-estimation.ly). > > I was hoping tha

Re: Fix Issue 1290 (issue3832046)

2011-01-07 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:50:40 -0800, Carl Sorensen wrote: A default value of skyline-horizontal-padding of 1.2 gets skyline-horizontal-padding.ly to work well. An override to System 'skyline-horizontal-padding = #0 in stem-length-estimation.ly gets it working well. Since we already have overri

Re: Correct convert-ly of page spacing (issue3793046)

2011-01-07 Thread percival . music . ca
Looks fine, although I haven't actually tested it, but since it's not in the core program I'm less concerned. Could you email me the git patch and I'll push it? http://codereview.appspot.com/3793046/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.

Re: Fix 1464 (segfault with R1 and metronome) (issue3858041)

2011-01-07 Thread percival . music . ca
I've done two regtest checks, and it all seems fine, so I've pushed it. http://codereview.appspot.com/3858041/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel