Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Polesky
Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > An example of a useful dashed bezier-sandwich arpeggio would be when > > indicating arpeggios presumed to have been accidentally omitted from > > a manuscript, within an urtext edition. > > I don't think so. The proper way would be rather to use an arpeggio > typeset wi

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 09:39:07PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > On 4/17/09 9:16 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > That said, I must admit that CG 5 doesn't go into details of how > > to manually deal with input/new to input/lsr. The format changes > > slightly. It's dealt with the pytho

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 6:03 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 09:39:07PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> On 4/17/09 9:16 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: >> >>> That said, I must admit that CG 5 doesn't go into details of how >>> to manually deal with input/new to input/lsr. The

Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/17/09 10:20 PM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: > > > > On 4/17/09 1:47 PM, "joenee...@gmail.com" wrote: > >> >> http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/59 >> File lily/bezier.cc (right): >> >> http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/59#newcode275 >> Line 275: Bezier::subdivide

Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Using a smaller design size might work with a squiggle-arpeggio, but > for composers who use the slur-arpeggio (I think Grieg was one?), > typesetting a thinner curve might be too subtle a difference. Ah, I haven't thought of the slur-arpeggio. Yes, I've meant the squiggle-arpeggio. Werne

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 08:26:57AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > On 4/18/09 6:03 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 09:39:07PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > Not only that, but with a minimum of effort. IMO, people adding > > new features should only be required

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 8:57 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 08:26:57AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> On 4/18/09 6:03 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: >> >> >> One of the issues with regtests is that when a bug is found, a regtest is >> added to demonstrate the bug, and then w

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 09:06:34AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > On 4/18/09 8:57 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > No, no -- when a programmer writes a regtest for a new feature, > > the minimal "documentation" work is that he copies it or runs a > > python script or something to put it in

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 9:24 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 09:06:34AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> On 4/18/09 8:57 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: >> >>> No, no -- when a programmer writes a regtest for a new feature, >>> the minimal "documentation" work is that he copies i

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 09:32:10AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > On 4/18/09 9:24 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > >> Why is it harder to leave the old version up than to take it down when we > >> move to the new stable version? What am I missing? > > > > Time. What happens if somebody ad

Re: invisible slurs in tablature

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 9:22 AM, "Marc Hohl" wrote: > Carl D. Sorensen schrieb: >> People who care strongly about tablature (of which I am *not* one) should be >> the people who make the decision about what the default should be. In fact, >> I don't think there's anybody on the core development team who

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 9:53 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > Mao, aren't I a genius for setting this up two years ago? ;) Yes, you are, obviously (another quote for Valentin). ;) > > Cheers, > - Graham > > PS about a year ago, I had exactly the same discussion with Mats. > I'm going to bet that it'l

Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 8:54 AM, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote: >> Using a smaller design size might work with a squiggle-arpeggio, but >> for composers who use the slur-arpeggio (I think Grieg was one?), >> typesetting a thinner curve might be too subtle a difference. > > Ah, I haven't thought of the slur-arpeggi

CG Information on Snippet Handling

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
I think something like the following needs to go in the CG under Documentation Work somewhere -- Probably after TWEAKS in section 3.4. "If a new snippet created for documentation purposes will compile in the current LSR version, the snippet should be added to the LSR, and a reference to the snipp

Re: adding snippets manually

2009-04-18 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/4/18 Graham Percival : > LSR should be the latest stable, which means 2.12.something. > Valentin is supposed to be coordinating this with Sebastiano, but > he's off spending time on other things right now. > *scowl* OK, you win. I'm giving Seba a ping right now. Regards, Valentin

Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/18 Carl D. Sorensen : > > > > On 4/17/09 1:34 PM, "n.putt...@gmail.com" wrote: >> http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/52 >> File Documentation/user/expressive.itely (right): >> >> http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/52#newcode634 >> Line 634: @lilypondfile[verbatim,lily

Re: CG Information on Snippet Handling

2009-04-18 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/18 Carl D. Sorensen : > > I think something like the following needs to go in the CG under > Documentation Work somewhere -- Probably after TWEAKS in section 3.4. > > "If a new snippet created for documentation purposes will compile in > the current LSR version, the snippet should be added t

Re: CG Information on Snippet Handling

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 4:55 PM, "Neil Puttock" wrote: > 2009/4/18 Carl D. Sorensen : >> [Snip original proposal on LSR snippets] > > It still needs ignoring like input/new snippets until an LSR update's been > done. > >> [Snip original proposal on input/new snippets] > > I think this is the simplest op

Re: CG Information on Snippet Handling

2009-04-18 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/19 Carl D. Sorensen : > Perhaps, but I think it's a good idea to actually test how the snippet shows > up in the docs, because there's documentation, not just LilyPond, in the > snippet.  Is there another way to do this that's easier than making the > slight change to the snippet and copyin

Re: Reverting Beat Grouping Commands

2009-04-18 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/4/15 Carl D. Sorensen : > So why can't we define an AutoBeamPlaceHolder grob description (defined in > scm/define-grobs.scm), which has an auto-beam-setting-interface (defined in > scm/define-grob-interfaces.scm)?  It would have no engraver, but I can't see > that having an engraver is necess

Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Joe Neeman
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 22:17 -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > > On 4/17/09 1:47 PM, "joenee...@gmail.com" wrote: > > > Very pretty slurs! > > Thanks! > > > > > > > http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/59 > > File lily/bezier.cc (right): > > > > http://codereview.appspot.com/41099

Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 7:56 PM, "Joe Neeman" wrote: > On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 22:17 -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > >>> http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/62#newcode347 >>> Line 347: SCM dash_details) >>> Since dash_details seems to just be a list of Reals, perhaps its better >>> to have a vect

Re: CG Information on Snippet Handling

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 5:45 PM, "Neil Puttock" wrote: > 2009/4/19 Carl D. Sorensen : > > >> What are the formatting issues when copying snippets into input/lsr?  The >> only thing I've run into is getting the whole header output if you don't put >>  "% begin verbatim" after the header. > > I was thinki

Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Joe Neeman
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 21:08 -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > > On 4/18/09 7:56 PM, "Joe Neeman" wrote: > > > On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 22:17 -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > > >>> http://codereview.appspot.com/41099/diff/1021/62#newcode347 > >>> Line 347: SCM dash_details) > >>> Since dash_det

Re: CG Information on Snippet Handling

2009-04-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:55:31PM +0100, Neil Puttock wrote: > Another option (though still not ideal since it suffers from the same > formatting issues as pasting snippets verbatim from input/new -> > input/lsr) is to use the same name for the regtest as the new snippet, > then the docs will auto

Re: Improve implementation of dashed slurs

2009-04-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/18/09 9:26 PM, "Joe Neeman" wrote: > On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 21:08 -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> >> On 4/18/09 7:56 PM, "Joe Neeman" wrote: >> >> >> If I do change to static typing, then I should have one routine that is >> called from all three places, something like scm2dash_d

Re: CG Information on Snippet Handling

2009-04-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 09:16:47PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > > I don't mind what you do, so long as it doesn't break compilation. :) > > OK, so how about this for proposal 3 for something to go into the CG: Here's my proposal: since this will change in 6 weeks and it isn't urgent, we le