Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread Hans Aberg
On 7 Apr 2009, at 18:37, > wrote: it is transposed twice in opposite directions: first by the composer who writes the sheet music actually, the composer usually scribbles all the music in score at pitch and leaves part copying (with appropraite transpositions) to a specialist who has a g

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Hulin
Bravo, Peter, I say go with this, it is pitched just right for the intended audience. You've got a note-reference "Bes" in there which will need to be marked as translatable. Cheers, Ian Hulin Peter Chubb wrote: I reckon it'd be better to split the whole thing into three entries. Whether a

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread demery
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009, Peter Chubb said: > Here's my rough try at the three entries: kudos Mr Chubb, trust the son of a son of a scoundrel... I like em all, but as usual, i do have a couple of quibbles. > Notes like a, b, c etc., describe a relationship between themselves, > not an absolute pi

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread demery
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009, "Anthony W. Youngman" said: >>So do we care what reference concert pitch uses? Does it matter if it's >>A=440, or A=445, or A=450? > > It does matter that the reference is accurate. it also matters that the 'Standard' is not always observed; especially for the music of Moz

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread demery
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009, Hans Aberg said: > On 7 Apr 2009, at 08:18, Peter Chubb wrote: > it is transposed twice in opposite > directions: first by the composer who writes the sheet music actually, the composer usually scribbles all the music in score at pitch and leaves part copying (with appro

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <87skkl7zry.wl%pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au>, Peter Chubb writes I reckon it'd be better to split the whole thing into three entries. Whether an instrument transposes or not has nothing to do with concert pitch. I'm reasonably happy with this, and am happy to wait for Kurt to chime in

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread Hans Aberg
On 7 Apr 2009, at 08:18, Peter Chubb wrote: Here's my rough try at the three entries: Concert Pitch: Notes like a, b, c etc., describe a relationship between themselves, not an absolute pitch. The nature of the relationship is the so-called temperament (q.v.). To be in tune, a group instrumen

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Concert Pitch (a second try) I reckon it'd be better to split the whole thing into three entries. Whether an instrument transposes or not has nothing to do with concert pitch. Here's my rough try at the three entries:

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message , Carl D. Sorensen writes I'm going to step in here, perhaps where wise men fear to tread. The LilyPond music glossary isn't intended to be a definitive music dictionary, is it? So do we care what reference concert pitch uses? Does it matter if it's A=440, or A=445, or A=450? It

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Chubb
I reckon it'd be better to split the whole thing into three entries. Whether an instrument transposes or not has nothing to do with concert pitch. Here's my rough try at the three entries: Concert Pitch: Notes like a, b, c etc., describe a relationship between themselves, not an absolute pitch.

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 06:11:32PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > I'm going to step in here, perhaps where wise men fear to tread. > > The LilyPond music glossary isn't intended to be a definitive music > dictionary, is it? Nope, not at all. > So do we care what reference concert pitch uses?

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/6/09 6:41 PM, "Paul Scott" wrote: > Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> So do we care what reference concert pitch uses? Does it matter if it's >> A=440, or A=445, or A=450? >> > > Some of us care for a non-notational reason: Woodwinds are built to > specific proportions which make them much

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Paul Scott
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: I'm going to step in here, perhaps where wise men fear to tread. The LilyPond music glossary isn't intended to be a definitive music dictionary, is it? Nope. A basic understanding of transposition should be all that is important here. So do we care what reference

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
I'm going to step in here, perhaps where wise men fear to tread. The LilyPond music glossary isn't intended to be a definitive music dictionary, is it? So do we care what reference concert pitch uses? Does it matter if it's A=440, or A=445, or A=450? Aren't the key issues that: 1) Concert pit

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread demery
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009, "Anthony W. Youngman" said: > Sounds good. one down? !!! > I think it's your use of "informally adopted" that jars - it implies > that they've ignored the Standard, when the standard didn't even exist > at the time. didnt have any one particular standard in mind; when o

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message , dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us writes On Sun, Apr 5, 2009, "Anthony W. Youngman" said: Okay, we've got more feedback (isn't this fun :-). welcome to electronic commiteedom :-) 1.64 Concert pitch The convention (standardised by ISO 16) that A above middle C represents the note at 44

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread demery
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009, "Anthony W. Youngman" said: > Okay, we've got more feedback (isn't this fun :-). welcome to electronic commiteedom :-) > 1.64 Concert pitch > > The convention (standardised by ISO 16) that A above middle C represents > the note at 440 Hertz. This is commonly notated by t

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Hans Aberg
On 6 Apr 2009, at 00:11, Hans Aberg wrote: Depending on the design of the instrument, some instruments have a lowest (pedal) note whose wavelength is twice the length of the instrument and can play all harmonics thereof (1/2, 2/2, 3/2...), while others have a pedal note whose wavelength is fo

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-05 Thread Hans Aberg
On 5 Apr 2009, at 23:12, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: Okay, we've got more feedback (isn't this fun :-). You might have fun for a life-time! :-) I'll try and do it again, following on from the comment that the existing (and my replacement) entries actually try to cram too much into the entr

Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-05 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
Okay, we've got more feedback (isn't this fun :-). I'll try and do it again, following on from the comment that the existing (and my replacement) entries actually try to cram too much into the entries. 1.64 Concert pitch The convention (standardised by ISO 16) that A above middle C represents