Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-14 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 14 janvier 2010 à 08:36 +, Trevor Daniels a écrit : > Unlike copying from the SHA1 ID and Find fields, cntl-c > cannot be used to copy to the clipboard from this pane. > > In Windows you have to press enter. > > In gitk running under ubuntu even this does not work. The field > to be

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-14 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 14 janvier 2010 à 12:52 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > 3) this is a presentation issue, not a content issue. As long as it > compiles, push it, then let other people work on the presentation. > > Based on your description, I gather that there's yet another bug in > lilypond-texi2html

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-14 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Mark Polesky wrote: > Yep. Thanks Joe! Brilliant. There's probably plenty more that can be added -- see all the info on the Wine wiki linked to -- but this seems to be the really _essential_ stuff. Maybe also a link to where to get dos2unix ... ? __

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-14 Thread Graham Percival
Suggestions: 1) stop sticking everything in the same thread; it makes it very hard to keep track of what's happening. 2) I can't reproduce with some tests on programming-work.itexi based on your description, so further debugging would be tricky for me. 3) this is a presentation issue, not a conte

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-14 Thread Mark Polesky
Unfortunately, there's a hierarchy problem with the @subsubheading Technical details thing that had previously escaped my notice. I'm finding this really confusing so I'll try to be clear. And I could be wrong on some detail... Any instance of @unnumberedsubsubsec foo that comes immediat

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:18 AM John Mandereau wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:44 AM Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 =C3=A0 09:27 +, Trevor Daniels a =C3=A9crit= In gitk (in either Unix or Windows) you can only copy/paste within the fields that you can highlig

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 08:32:28AM -0800, Mark Polesky wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > - elsewhere in the docs, we use "foo -- bar", not > > "foo---bar". I don't pretend to be authoritative about > > the difference, though. > > I've read that the typographical ideal is: > > word, hair-spac

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 02:24:58PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 12:20 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Also, please > > use @q{} in the @section name. > > ... actually, could we just sidestep the whole issue by removing the > > quotes entirely? "@node Using li

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Mark Polesky
Trevor Daniels wrote: > Mark is currently redrafting this section of the CG and it > seems he has picked up and applied your changes in his > latest patch. > > Is that right, Mark? Yep. Thanks Joe! - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lily

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: > Looks mostly good. > > - you've reverted some of the ``foo'' -> @qq{foo} changes > in essay. Why? Freaky. I didn't touch essay. How did that happen? I see Trevor has some theories... Oh, I see now that Francisco was doing some work there. I must not have rebased at t

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:20 PM On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Mark Polesky wrote: Okay, here's a patch. - you've reverted some of the ``foo'' -> @qq{foo} changes in essay. Why? - I'm not positive, but I believe that we put punctuation outside @q{} brack

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:12 AM Patrick McCarty wrote: Most of the time, on GNU/Linux, I copy and paste by highlighting the text to copy, and then middle-clicking where I want to paste. For no explicable reason, I just assumed that wouldn't work in gitk. But it does

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 12:20 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > - I'm not positive, but I believe that we put punctuation outside @q{} > brackets. If you want to change this policy, we can discuss it, but > please don't just go changing things inside the hu/ translation. Indeed; Mark, diff

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Mark Polesky wrote: > Okay, here's a patch.  Obviously, there's more work to be done, > but it might be good to get the re-structuring stuff out of the > way.  `make' succeeded and `make doc' is still going, but I'm off > to bed. Looks mostly good. - you've rever

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:44 AM Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 =C3=A0 09:27 +, Trevor Daniels a =C3=A9crit= In gitk (in either Unix or Windows) you can only copy/paste within the fields that you can highlight. The include only the SHA1 ID and the Find fields, I thin

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:21 AM Trevor Daniels wrote I never did it - with git gui you never need an editor. It has a pane specifically for displaying, entering and editing commit messages. It also has an "Amend Last Commit" button which was the only form of rebase -i

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:41 AM 1) Right-click on the title-bar of the Git Bash window 2) Select Edit > Mark 3) Left-click and drag your selection. 4) Press enter to copy it to the clipboard. I have never tried GIT on Windows, but if the window in question is a normal

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010 à 09:27 +, Trevor Daniels a écrit : > In gitk (in either Unix or Windows) you can only > copy/paste within the fields that you can highlight. > The include only the SHA1 ID and the Find fields, I > think. You can also copy (but not paste) from the commit content su

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:52 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: I've never had to to do it, as I rarely use the git bash command line for git work. I can do virtually everything in git gui or gitk, which cut and paste normally in both Windows and Unix. Can you really cut/paste

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2010-01-12, Mark Polesky wrote: > Patrick McCarty wrote: > > Most of the time, on GNU/Linux, I copy and paste by > > highlighting the text to copy, and then middle-clicking > > where I want to paste. > > For no explicable reason, I just assumed that wouldn't work > in gitk. But it does indeed.

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread Mark Polesky
Patrick McCarty wrote: > Most of the time, on GNU/Linux, I copy and paste by > highlighting the text to copy, and then middle-clicking > where I want to paste. For no explicable reason, I just assumed that wouldn't work in gitk. But it does indeed. Thanks. Incidentally, have you guys seen gitg?

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2010-01-12, Mark Polesky wrote: > Trevor Daniels wrote: > > I've never had to to do it, as I rarely use the git bash > > command line for git work. I can do virtually everything > > in git gui or gitk, which cut and paste normally in both > > Windows and Unix. > > Can you really cut/paste in g

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread Mark Polesky
Trevor Daniels wrote: > I've never had to to do it, as I rarely use the git bash > command line for git work. I can do virtually everything > in git gui or gitk, which cut and paste normally in both > Windows and Unix. Can you really cut/paste in gitk on Unix? I can't seem to. Right-clicking in

Re: Release numbers [was Re: CG chapter 2, first draft]

2010-01-12 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 12 janvier 2010 à 14:49 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > For unstable, yes. But they're not all that cheap for stable -- I > mean, I'd expect many users to update to a new stable version. But > there's absolutely no functional difference between 2.12.3 and the > hypothetical 2.12.4. T

Re: Release numbers [was Re: CG chapter 2, first draft]

2010-01-12 Thread Graham Percival
2010/1/12 John Mandereau : > Le mardi 12 janvier 2010 à 12:31 +, Graham Percival a écrit : >> now that John's >> updated stable, I need to drop that work and start figuring out how to >> get GUB to make 2.12.3-2. > > Why not releasing a 2.12.4 instead?  Revision numbers (third number of > the v

Release numbers [was Re: CG chapter 2, first draft]

2010-01-12 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 12 janvier 2010 à 12:31 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > now that John's > updated stable, I need to drop that work and start figuring out how to > get GUB to make 2.12.3-2. Why not releasing a 2.12.4 instead? Revision numbers (third number of the version number) are cheap, aren't they

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Mark Polesky wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: >> I think a fair chunk of it will be wasted effort, but it's >> *your* effort to waste. > > Geez, Graham, sometimes I wish you *would* mince a few words > from time to time!  I don't think it's a waste at all. ... > *Th

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Mark Polesky wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > Of the two, I prefer "top...". Ok. I suggest dropping the "sometimes"; let's make sure it's *always* referred to as the "top source directory". Even if people never get start touching the build system, using the ex

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 12 janvier 2010 à 09:09 +, Trevor Daniels a écrit : > I don't > use Cygwin, so I don't know if it shares a > clipboard with Windows. IIRC there is an option in Cygwin to share the clipboard between Windows and XWindow applications, but if you just use Cygwin as a Windows application i

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Trevor Daniels wrote: Now that I'm back home I don't have access to a Schmindows machine, so I forget the details. But I do remember it being a pain. Something like 1) Right-click on the title-bar of the Git Bash window 2) Select Edit > Mark 3) Left-click and drag your selection. 4) Press

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:03 AM Graham Percival wrote: I think a fair chunk of it will be wasted effort, but it's *your* effort to waste. Geez, Graham, sometimes I wish you *would* mince a few words from time to time! I don't think it's a waste at all. I remember was

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-11 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: > Don't use $ in front of examples. It makes it impossible > to cut&paste! Well, not impossible. Besides, it's good to differentiate the input from the output when quoting the output. > Don't bother quoting the output. Right. > I think a fair chunk of it will be wasted

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-11 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: > Don't use $ in front of examples. It makes it impossible > to cut&paste! Well, not impossible. Besides, it's good to differentiate the input from the output when quoting the output. > Don't bother quoting the output. Right. > I think a fair chunk of it will be wasted

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-11 Thread pound...@lineone.net
>Original Message >From: markpole...@yahoo.com >Date: 11/01/2010 20:20 >To: "lilypond-devel", "pound...@lineone.net" >Subj: Re: CG chapter 2, first draft > >pound...@lineone.net wrote: >> I was just re-reading this section of the CG wh

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-11 Thread Mark Polesky
pound...@lineone.net wrote: > I was just re-reading this section of the CG when this > arrived. For me, the balance is just right. > > Particularly useful for me was: > > 1 - The extra explanation in "Organization of remote > branches" is useful when the terminology is new > > 2 - The reassurance a

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-11 Thread pound...@lineone.net
>Original Message >From: markpole...@yahoo.com >Date: 11/01/2010 7:23 >To: "lilypond-devel" >Subj: CG chapter 2, first draft > >Hey everyone. Here's a first draft of my idea for the new >CG chapter 2. I left out some obvious things to save spa

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-11 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Mark, Trevor, Graham, On 11/01/10 12:29, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Monday, January 11, 2010 11:30 AM That said, a few more comments: - if you're going to go to all this effort, please eliminate the "git on windows" section -- for each portion of the (unix-aimed) docs, jus

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, January 11, 2010 11:30 AM That said, a few more comments: - if you're going to go to all this effort, please eliminate the "git on windows" section -- for each portion of the (unix-aimed) docs, just dump the relevant windows instructions on the bottom of the pag

Re: CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-11 Thread Graham Percival
(sorry, re-sending to list as well) On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Mark Polesky wrote: > Hey everyone. Here's a first draft of my idea for the new > CG chapter 2. Don't use $ in front of examples. It makes it impossible to cut&paste! This is an abomination that probably started in printed

CG chapter 2, first draft

2010-01-10 Thread Mark Polesky
Hey everyone. Here's a first draft of my idea for the new CG chapter 2. I left out some obvious things to save space. And of course there are unfinished spots, but it's a preview of (I hope) the new Git chapter. I say "I hope" because I worry that some of you might think it's too much? Well, we