Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/30/10 1:04 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 06:37:08AM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> What about option 0 -- try to coordinate the resources we currently have >> available on the critical issues? > > I would like that. I'm a bit surprised to see so many people > tal

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > I'll wait another day for comments in case anybody missed it due to > the savannah list downtime, but I despite my objection, I'll branch > stable/2.14 in the next few days unless anybody speaks heavily against > it. It might be better to

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:04 AM > >> I'm willing to try it as an experiment, but I >> really doubt that having a separate branch would encourage more >> people to spend more time on critical issues. > > It wouldn't,

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:04 AM On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 06:37:08AM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: What about option 0 -- try to coordinate the resources we currently have available on the critical issues? I would like that. I'm a bit surprised to see so many people t

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-12-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 06:37:08AM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: > What about option 0 -- try to coordinate the resources we currently have > available on the critical issues? I would like that. I'm a bit surprised to see so many people talking about branching a stable/2.14 -- I don't think that wo

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Valentin Villenave wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Patrick McCarty wrote: >> >> I also think it would be useful to have two code freezes on >> stable/2.14: one for code/docs, and one for translations (right before >> the release). > > (Of course it depen

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/29/10 4:49 AM, "Valentin Villenave" wrote: > (PS. Perhaps now would be as good a time as any to publicly state that > I'm leaving the project by the end of the year, partly due to > aforementioned dissatisfactions. So whatever I might have to say until > then can, and likely will, be safel

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Patrick McCarty wrote: > I also think it would be useful to have two code freezes on > stable/2.14: one for code/docs, and one for translations (right before > the release). (Of course it depends on how much new work is done after stable/2.14 is branched off, but)

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > > 2) release 2.14 ASAP with no critical flaws, but with some kind of > code freeze. >  Many software projects implement a "freeze" before a release -- >  when the project is "frozen", this means that no changes are >  allowed, unless they

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/29/10 12:33 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > What do you think? This is not a vote, but I would like to hear > from people. I am hoping that we can find a reasonable amount of > consensus. What about option 0 -- try to coordinate the resources we currently have available on the critical i

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, November 29, 2010 7:33 AM With that in mind, I'm reopening the same question as the 24 Oct email. 2) release 2.14 ASAP with no critical flaws, but with some kind of code freeze. I prefer a variant on this. Branch 2.14 now and apply only patches to critical prob

Re: 2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-29 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > 2) release 2.14 ASAP with no critical flaws, but with some kind of > code freeze. >  Many software projects implement a "freeze" before a release -- >  when the project is "frozen", this means that no changes are >  allowed, unless they hav

2.14 release, or GOP now (part 2)

2010-11-28 Thread Graham Percival
A brief reminder of the timeline: - 18 Sep 2010: "we need to sort out various policies, but let's wait until 2.14" http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2010-09/msg00178.html - 22 Sep 2010: "alpha test 1 for 2.14, only 1 critical issue" http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-lilypond/2