Re: Turkish makam

2023-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Too bad that `makam.ly` is essentially undocumented... > > From what I can see, makam.ly is the original faulty file, only > there for backwards compatibility, which might be removed if there > is no need for that. We could make it become deprecated in the next release, to be completely remo

PATCHES - Countdown to January 16

2023-01-13 Thread Colin Campbell
Here is the current countdown report. The next countdown will begin on January 16th. A list of all merge requests can be found here: https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests?sort=label_priority Push: !1809 Let Paper_book use \layout rather than \paper for global markups - D

Re: Turkish makam

2023-01-13 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 13 Jan 2023, at 19:03, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> [...] a possible future change could be, say, >> >> \include "arabic.ly" >> \language "arabic-hel" >> >> but I don't see much benefit for that. > > Hmm, probably it *is* the way to go – this is exactly what is done in > `makam.ly` and

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> [...] a possible future change could be, say, > > \include "arabic.ly" > \language "arabic-hel" > > but I don't see much benefit for that. Hmm, probably it *is* the way to go – this is exactly what is done in `makam.ly` and `turkish-makam.ly`. Too bad that `makam.ly` is essentially undoc

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Now, obviously renaming it will break scores, [...] It won't. Such a renaming could be done easily with `convert-ly`. I just don't see a reason for doing that – and especially, I don't see a alternative name for `hel-arabic.ly` that is really superior. Werner

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The same holds for Arabic: As described in the documentation changes > of MR !1783 you should say > > \include "arabic.ly" > > if you want Italian-based note names for inputting Arabic music, and > > \include "hel-arabic.ly" > > if you want English-based note names with customized, Ital

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> But what is the point of this high-level interface? Surely, > arabic.ly should be the obvious entry point. It's similar to note name language support in LilyPond: We don't say \include "language.ly" Instead, we rather have \include "deutsch.ly" or \include "italiano.ly" The same ho

Re: New list admin

2023-01-13 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 10/01/2023 à 22:17, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : In order to increase the bus factor, I would like to nominate one or two other regulars as admins. If you feel like it, please let me know. Thanks to Mark Knoop for accepting this task. He is now a co-admin. Best, Jean OpenPGP_signature Des

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2023-01-13 1:44 am, Werner LEMBERG wrote: it seems like we could easily find a better name for this file, more descriptive of its purpose and less related to the original author. While this might be true, I don't think there is a pressing reason to change the name of a high-level interface j

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Luca Fascione
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 10:44 AM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > `hel-arabic.ly` exists since more > than five years, and nobody has ever complained about the name, as far > as I can remember. > Well yes. but. Out of the users of that file, how many a) would have noticed, b) would be aware of our naming

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> it seems like we could easily find a better name for this file, more > descriptive of its purpose and less related to the original author. While this might be true, I don't think there is a pressing reason to change the name of a high-level interface just because three letters of the name refe

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Luca Fascione
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 10:11 AM Aaron Hill wrote: > I have no idea what "hel" is supposed to be referring to > If I remember right, in a previous post Hassan had indicated "hel" to be a shorthand for his name _H_assan _El_ Fatihi. FWIW, I would have found it more natural to shorten the name as

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread hassan . elfatihi
Hello I just answered the questions I have no problem with including arabic.ly in hel-arabic.ly. For me the subject can be closed Best regard Hassan EL FATIHI

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Hassan, > Question: Should all key signatures for the various maqams simply go > only into arabic.ly ? > Answer: All key signatures for the various maqams simply go only > into hel-arabic.ly (if not modified, as recently proposed) You are missing the point. Whether the signat

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2023-01-13 12:23 am, Luca Fascione wrote: Hassan, it would help us enormously if you could share with us the reasoning behind these choices. For example, you stated "All key signatures for maqams go in hel-arabic.ly": could you explain to us why this is the better place for them, compared

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Luca Fascione
Hassan, it would help us enormously if you could share with us the reasoning behind these choices. For example, you stated "All key signatures for maqams go in hel-arabic.ly": could you explain to us why this is the better place for them, compared to arabic.ly? This will provide some intuition to a

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread hassan . elfatihi
Hello Answers to questions Question : while hel-arabic.ly has this line that includes arabic.ly , what are they getting out of this? Some more key signatures and keyAlterationOrder? answer: normally hel-arabic.ly doesn't need arabic.ly (if not modified, as recently proposed) Question: Shou