Re: Website questions: GSoC

2013-12-13 Thread James
On 14/12/13 07:14, Urs Liska wrote: Am 14.12.2013 04:53, schrieb Graham Percival: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 02:06:38PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: The page "GSoC 2012" is obviously outdated. What should be done with it? I suggest deleting it. There's no evidence that the proposed mentors are still

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:05:49 -0800, David Kastrup wrote: That does not make sense. If you want call-once behavior, you can just use a callback. At the moment, the decision on whether to preserve the callback pointer in the grob property, or fill the property with the returned value, depends

Re: Website questions: GSoC

2013-12-13 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.12.2013 04:53, schrieb Graham Percival: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 02:06:38PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: The page "GSoC 2012" is obviously outdated. What should be done with it? I suggest deleting it. There's no evidence that the proposed mentors are still available or interested, and those s

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread David Kastrup
"Keith OHara" writes: >> On Dec 13, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Keith OHara wrote: >> >>> Open_type_font:: and Pango_font::name_to_index() each call >>> FT_Get_Name_Index(). Inserting print statements to trace those >>> calls I find that FT_Get_Name_Index is called: >>> 7 times for each character in a Te

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714 (issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread James
On 14/12/13 05:57, Carl Peterson wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:02:23AM -0500, Carl Peterson wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM, wrote: I think that the index sidebar colors are too dark. They dominate the page, in my opinon.

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread Keith OHara
On Dec 13, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Keith OHara wrote: Open_type_font:: and Pango_font::name_to_index() each call FT_Get_Name_Index(). Inserting print statements to trace those calls I find that FT_Get_Name_Index is called: 7 times for each character in a Tempo The layers of functions that result

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714 (issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Carl Peterson
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:02:23AM -0500, Carl Peterson wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM, wrote: >> > I think that the index sidebar colors are too dark. They dominate the >> > page, in my opinon. In the current design, the si

Re: Website questions: Manual->Web

2013-12-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 03:40:03PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > I _think_ the odd place of "web" in the manuals hierarchy is down to > it being the only part of the documentation that built using "make > website" - it has something of a split personality between being > part of the documentation and

Re: Website questions: Manual->Web

2013-12-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 09:34:28PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: > When I go there I can download the whole website as a PDF. OK, this > makes sense. > Getting it as one big HTML page also makes sense. > [but where can I get it in info format?) We don't provide links to the info documents, because IMO n

Re: Website questions: GSoC

2013-12-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 02:06:38PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: > The page "GSoC 2012" is obviously outdated. > > What should be done with it? I suggest deleting it. There's no evidence that the proposed mentors are still available or interested, and those specific proposals are a small subject of th

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-13 Thread graham
https://codereview.appspot.com/40510046/diff/40001/Documentation/web/download.itexi File Documentation/web/download.itexi (left): https://codereview.appspot.com/40510046/diff/40001/Documentation/web/download.itexi#oldcode35 Documentation/web/download.itexi:35: @warningTextBased Umm, isn't the wh

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714 (issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:02:23AM -0500, Carl Peterson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM, wrote: > > I think that the index sidebar colors are too dark. They dominate the > > page, in my opinon. In the current design, the sidebar color and the > > highlight box fill color are the same.

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I do see how sfnt_get_name_index() does a linear search through the > font to find a matching name. Much better if LilyPond could look up > text characters by their Unicode encoding. Well, there are historic reasons for that. On the other hand, I think that for lilypond, which often provides

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 01:38:23 -0800, Werner LEMBERG wrote: I will check whether I can improve that in FreeType. Is there a reason this would have such a significantly different impact in Windows? No. It's exactly the same code on both platforms. However, for lilypond, even a single-element

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread Keith OHara
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 23:07:19 -0800, Keith OHara wrote: I am happy to say that I was wrong here. Open_type_font:: and Pango_font::name_to_index() each call FT_Get_Name_Index(). Inserting print statements to trace those calls I find that FT_Get_Name_Index is called: 7 times for each character

Re: Website questions: Manual->Web

2013-12-13 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" To: "LilyPond Development Team" Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Website questions: Manual->Web I've raised this issue already, but I think it needs to be considered in its own thread: What to do with Manuals->Web? When I go

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714(issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Carl Sorensen" To: "Phil Holmes" ; "Carl Peterson" Cc: "Lilypond Dev" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714(issue 36480048) On 12/13/13 6:04 AM, "Phil Holmes" wrote: Thanks fo

Re: Website questions: Manual->Web

2013-12-13 Thread Paul Morris
Paul Morris wrote > Usually this works by putting > http://www.example.com/etc/etc.html";> > in the > > of any non-canonical page, pointing to the canonical page. Forgot to say: under the scenario of using 301 redirects you wouldn't need to do any http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Websi

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714(issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/13/13 6:04 AM, "Phil Holmes" wrote: >Thanks for what you're doing, but please don't put a lot of images on the >Google Issue tracker. For bizarre reasons only known to themselves, the >storage available for attachments is _very_ limited. By accident you've >just > used about 1/25 of our r

Re: Website questions: Manual->Web

2013-12-13 Thread Paul Morris
Urs Liska wrote > But clicking on "Web (split HTML)" brings you to a copy of the whole > website, just several directories below the original. > This is irritating, to say the least. I agree that this does not make sense for someone browsing the website, and the text does not really explain what'

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714 (issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/13/13 8:02 AM, "Carl Peterson" wrote: >On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM, wrote: >> I think that the index sidebar colors are too dark. They dominate the >> page, in my opinon. In the current design, the sidebar color and the >> highlight box fill color are the same. Why not keep it th

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714 (issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Carl Peterson
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM, wrote: > I think that the index sidebar colors are too dark. They dominate the > page, in my opinon. In the current design, the sidebar color and the > highlight box fill color are the same. Why not keep it that way? Attaching another option, to address your c

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714(issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Carl Peterson" To: "James" Cc: "Lilypond Dev" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation;issue 3714(issue 36480048) On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, James wrote: On 13/12/13 13:04, Phil Holmes

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714(issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Peterson writes: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, James wrote: >> On 13/12/13 13:04, Phil Holmes wrote: >> >> Thanks for what you're doing, but please don't put a lot of images on the >> Google Issue tracker. For bizarre reasons only known to themselves, the >> storage available for atta

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714(issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Carl Peterson
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, James wrote: > On 13/12/13 13:04, Phil Holmes wrote: > > Thanks for what you're doing, but please don't put a lot of images on the > Google Issue tracker. For bizarre reasons only known to themselves, the > storage available for attachments is _very_ limited. By

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714(issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread James
On 13/12/13 13:04, Phil Holmes wrote: Thanks for what you're doing, but please don't put a lot of images on the Google Issue tracker. For bizarre reasons only known to themselves, the storage available for attachments is _very_ limited. By accident you've just used about 1/25 of our remaining

Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue 3714(issue 36480048)

2013-12-13 Thread Phil Holmes
Thanks for what you're doing, but please don't put a lot of images on the Google Issue tracker. For bizarre reasons only known to themselves, the storage available for attachments is _very_ limited. By accident you've just used about 1/25 of our remaining quota. -- Phil Holmes - Origi

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-13 Thread lilyliska
Incorporated most of the comments. Will upload new patch set in a minute https://codereview.appspot.com/40510046/diff/20001/Documentation/web/download.itexi File Documentation/web/download.itexi (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/40510046/diff/20001/Documentation/web/download.itexi#newcode

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I will check whether I can improve that in FreeType. > > Is there a reason this would have such a significantly different > impact in Windows? No. It's exactly the same code on both platforms. However, for lilypond, even a single-element cache would help, see attached quick'n'dirty patch (fo

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Open_type_font:: and Pango_font::name_to_index() each call >> FT_Get_Name_Index(). Inserting print statements to trace those calls >> I find that FT_Get_Name_Index is called: >> 7 times for each character in a Tempo >> 5 times for each character in a Text Script >> ...

Re: anyone notice speed of 2.17.95 on Windows ?

2013-12-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Open_type_font:: and Pango_font::name_to_index() each call > FT_Get_Name_Index(). Inserting print statements to trace those calls > I find that FT_Get_Name_Index is called: > 7 times for each character in a Tempo > 5 times for each character in a Text Script > ... > 1 time for each notehead > 5