Re: summarizing patches for review (was: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053))

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, you wrote Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:11 AM On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:25:27PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham, you wrote Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:43 AM >LARGE PATCHES > >SHORT PATCHES I think just CODE PATCHES for these. It's hard to think of a meaningful difference. Numbe

Re: 2.15.9 regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Keith OHara
Graham Percival percival-music.ca> writes: > please add a new Critical issue for [profiles]. We can always mark it > invalid later. now issue 1858 > song-melisma.ly The former extra space was issue 1779 > beam-feather-breaking.ly : lots of changes system spacing. Mike, > IIRC feathered bea

Re: 2.15.9 regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 03:08:04AM +, Keith OHara wrote: > I've looked closely at the changes with distance 5.0 or above, and > looked quickly at the others. If one more person takes a shift > starting at the small 'distances' that would be great. 5.0 and above? ok, I'll do the rest. > One

Re: 2.15.9 regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Keith OHara
Keith OHara oco.net> writes: > Two unexpected spacing changes that I will investigate: > beam-extreme.ly spacing-correction-accidentals.ly The /new/ behavior is correct in these two tests. (That is, the output matches the intent of the code) I forgot to mention, tuplet brackets now span thei

Re: summarizing patches for review (was: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053))

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:25:27PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Graham, you wrote Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:43 AM > > >LARGE PATCHES > > > >SHORT PATCHES > > I think just CODE PATCHES for these. It's > hard to think of a meaningful difference. > Number of affected files, number of changed

Re: Fixes missing images in big website page (issue 4963046)

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 05:24:51PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > OK. My claim that this is fixed is partly down to the number of > copies of web-big-page.html on the system after a build. It's fixed > in the wrong one, but not fixed in the right one. To get my head > fully around this, I think I n

Re: Uses langdefs.py to create language list for create-weblinks-itexi.py (issue 4951047)

2011-08-30 Thread percival . music . ca
http://codereview.appspot.com/4951047/diff/1/scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py File scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/4951047/diff/1/scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py#newcode31 scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py:31: # Unable to find langd

Fix 1821: Write pathes for ly-to-tely to a separate file rather than passing as cmd line args (issue 4950053)

2011-08-30 Thread percival . music . ca
sweet mao that's disgusting. I love it. :) If you can make doc from scratch, then push. http://codereview.appspot.com/4950053/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: git access

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:45:39PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > I vaguely remember having a problem with copying > keys into Savannah. Something about avoiding > returns in the middle of the key string. Did > you ensure your copied string was all on a single > line when you scraped it, or ha

Re: 2.15.9 regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Keith OHara
Phil Holmes philholmes.net> writes: > Or we could take shifts in checking images. I've looked closely at the changes with distance 5.0 or above, and looked quickly at the others. If one more person takes a shift starting at the small 'distances' that would be great. One concern: Cell counts

Re: git access

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ian, you wrote Hulin" I can't set up the ssh connection properly, does anyone know if this configuration (which I have enabled on my router - public IP address 87.12.149.79) will cause problems talking to the Savannah server via ssh? This is snip from my router's help. "Block WAN Requests

Re: summarizing patches for review (was: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053))

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, you wrote Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:43 AM Rather, I'd like to have a clearer format for the countdowns. I'm thinking of something like this: SYNTAX CHANGES tick MAINTAINABILITY tick LARGE PATCHES SHORT PATCHES I think just CODE PATCHES for these. It's hard to think of a m

Re: Prevents nested tuplets from colliding. (issue 4808082)

2011-08-30 Thread pkx166h
Mike, passes make but during reg test check i get --snip-- Failed files: (6c/lily-5110fb03.ly) fatal error: Children (3) exited with errors. command failed: /home/jlowe/lilypond-git/build/out/bin/lilypond -I /home/jlowe/lilypond-git/input/regression/ -I ./out-test -I /home/jlowe/lilypond-git/inp

Re: Add some polyphonically directed grobs (issue 4387046)

2011-08-30 Thread pkx166h
Passes make but get two reg tests show up that look ok but that need a second opinion. Attached on http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1854#c1 http://codereview.appspot.com/4387046/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.o

Fix 1825: Convert-ly shall also print output if no replacement was done (issue 4961059)

2011-08-30 Thread pkx166h
sses make and reg tests and I ran a make doc too (seemed relevant) and it failed --snip-- tal error: failed files: "78/lily-63af708e.ly" fatal error: Children (3) exited with errors. command failed: /home/jlowe/lilypond-git/build/out/bin/lilypond -dbackend=eps --formats=ps,png,pdf -djob-count=7

Re: Improves horizontal spacing of axis groups that SpanBar grobs traverse. (issue 4917046)

2011-08-30 Thread Joe Neeman
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Mike Solomon wrote: > On Aug 30, 2011, at 5:53 PM, joenee...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my understanding: wherever there's >> a SpanBar, you're creating SpanBarStubs between every relevant pair of >> staves. These don't actually get

Re: Fix issue 11 -- beamlet points in wrong direction on tuplet (issue 4941041)

2011-08-30 Thread pkx166h
Passes make and reg test shows one change see attached on http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=11#c14 probably expected. http://codereview.appspot.com/4941041/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org

Re: Long live length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
http://codereview.appspot.com/4965053/diff/9004/scm/define-grob-properties.scm#newcode841 scm/define-grob-properties.scm:841: (stem-begin-position ,ly:dimension? "User override for the shouldn't this be number? ? I'm not sure - what's the difference between the two types? Someone more fam

Re: Long live length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread mtsolo
On 2011/08/30 20:39:25, Trevor Daniels wrote: Thanks Mike :) LGTM (with one query) AFAICT in this complex area. http://codereview.appspot.com/4965053/diff/9004/scm/define-grob-properties.scm File scm/define-grob-properties.scm (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/4965053/diff/9004/scm

Re: Long live length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread tdanielsmusic
Thanks Mike :) LGTM (with one query) AFAICT in this complex area. http://codereview.appspot.com/4965053/diff/9004/scm/define-grob-properties.scm File scm/define-grob-properties.scm (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/4965053/diff/9004/scm/define-grob-properties.scm#newcode841 scm/define-gro

Re: Long live length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread reinhold . kainhofer
Can you add a regtest for overriding Stem #'length? http://codereview.appspot.com/4965053/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Long live length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread mtsolo
Hey all, I've made a pretty significant change to this patch resulting from the conversation on the list tonight. master builds clean and I'm halfway into a clean doc build. Will check regtests tomorrow. I'd like this to stay on the countdown in spite of the change, although if people want me

Re: stop pushing to master (contextStringTuning is broken)

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:17 PM How about we make a "staging" branch in git, then encourage people to push to "staging" instead of master? We will then have somebody (probably James) merge from staging to master, after checking that it builds completely. Sounds like a

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Dienstag, 30. August 2011, 19:40:31 schrieb Mike Solomon: > In this case, it seems like the property should be called positions and not > length. Length presupposes that the begin position remains constant and > the end chagnes, whereas positions should take a pair that gives the > bottom and t

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mike Solomon wrote Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:40 PM In this case, it seems like the property should be called positions and not length. Why, if it's a length? Length presupposes that the begin position remains constant Exactly. That's why it's easy to understand. It conveys exactly t

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread David Kastrup
Mike Solomon writes: > On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Keith OHara wrote: > >> Mike Solomon ufl.edu> writes: >> >>> As I stated in a previous mail, it is easy to re-instate >>> a length property in the stem-interface and then >>> build it into either Stem::internal_height or Stem::print. >>> I

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:17 PM, Keith OHara wrote: > Mike Solomon ufl.edu> writes: > >> As I stated in a previous mail, it is easy to re-instate >> a length property in the stem-interface and then >> build it into either Stem::internal_height or Stem::print. >> I have no problem with this. >> >

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Keith OHara
Mike Solomon ufl.edu> writes: > As I stated in a previous mail, it is easy to re-instate > a length property in the stem-interface and then > build it into either Stem::internal_height or Stem::print. > I have no problem with this. > The KEEP LENGTH option is the best, because 'length and 'Y

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:08 Mike Solomon wrote: >> Currently, the stem stencil function is doable in Scheme, which means that >> the result from 2.15.8 can be achieved via : > Thank you for your work! I've "bookmarked" this hint/thread, of cour

Re: 2.15.9 regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > Well - there are too many differences on the official page for me to count. > It was clearly going to be iffy when I looked at the "items still to load" in > the browser and it was over 1100. In my pixel comparator, I've got 1,031 > difference

Re: Improves horizontal spacing of axis groups that SpanBar grobs traverse. (issue 4917046)

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 5:53 PM, joenee...@gmail.com wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my understanding: wherever there's > a SpanBar, you're creating SpanBarStubs between every relevant pair of > staves. These don't actually get printed; they're just there for the > pure-height (because t

Re: 2.15.9 regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Keith OHara
Phil Holmes philholmes.net> writes: > the other > is a slight spacing change - it looks like, as a general rule, 2.15.9 is > slightly more compact on ragged-right versus 2.15.7 (which is my local > baseline). Due to the fix for issue 1779. > I'll attach one difference file which I don't und

Re: Improves horizontal spacing of axis groups that SpanBar grobs traverse. (issue 4917046)

2011-08-30 Thread joeneeman
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my understanding: wherever there's a SpanBar, you're creating SpanBarStubs between every relevant pair of staves. These don't actually get printed; they're just there for the pure-height (because the SpanBar height is pretty much the whole system, so it doesn't

Re: Misleading documentation for \applyOutput?

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
David The documentation of \applyContext has not been touched for several years (other than moving it around between manuals.) It may well be quite out-of-date. This state of affairs is because no one interested in documentation understands it well enough and with enough confidence to rewrite i

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mike, you wrote Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:41 PM As I stated in a previous mail, it is easy to re-instate a length property in the stem-interface and then build it into either Stem::internal_height or Stem::print. I have no problem with this. I'd vote for this. Let's see what others thin

Re: Misleading documentation for \applyOutput?

2011-08-30 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > the documentation for applyOutput states > > `applyContext' - PROC (procedure) > Modify context properties with Scheme procedure PROC. [...] > What's the deal here? Why this completely misleading > characterization, documentation and description? What's with the n

Misleading documentation for \applyOutput?

2011-08-30 Thread David Kastrup
Hi, the documentation for applyOutput states `applyContext' - PROC (procedure) Modify context properties with Scheme procedure PROC. After digging back and forth through documentation and scratching my head, I have come to the conclusion that \applyContext is the _canonical_ way to actuall

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Mike Solomon wrote Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM > >> I believe that Trevor is claiming that #(stem::length 5) is worse from a >> UI-perspective than #5. > > Yes. >> I think he is right insofar as stem::length means there are more t

Re: git access

2011-08-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Ian Hulin" I can't set up the ssh connection properly, does anyone know if this configuration (which I have enabled on my router - public IP address 87.12.149.79) will cause problems talking to the Savannah server via ssh? This is snip from my router's help

Re: git access

2011-08-30 Thread Ian Hulin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm still having problems with enabling push access to git. On Wed 24 Aug 2011 13:52:13 BST, Ian Hulin wrote: > Hi all, I've been getting problems setting up git push access to > savanna. > > On 21/08/11 02:41, Graham Percival wrote: >> My b

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Tue 30 Aug 2011, 16:08 Mike Solomon wrote: > Currently, the stem stencil function is doable in Scheme, which means that > the result from 2.15.8 can be achieved via : Thank you for your work! I've "bookmarked" this hint/thread, of course. I am still wondering, is stem the single grob so far, wh

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote: > On Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:02 I wrote: >> Being a user, I often used to override 'Y-extent for some specific purposes: >> >> { >> \override Stem #'Y-extent = #'(-10 . 0) >> c''_\fermata >> } > Oh, yes, 2.15.9 changes stem's length. > > 2.15.8

2.15.9 regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Phil Holmes
Well - there are too many differences on the official page for me to count. It was clearly going to be iffy when I looked at the "items still to load" in the browser and it was over 1100. In my pixel comparator, I've got 1,031 difference files to check. There are 2 obvious causes of this: one

Re: developer IRC or skype chat

2011-08-30 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 06:24:37PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > > 2011/6/7 Graham Percival : > > > Anybody interested in setting up a weekly chat?  Either IRC or > > > skype or some other chat protocol. [...] > Hmm, no overwhelming interest. > > Short-term: let's just make a conscious eff

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 01:45:20PM +0200, Mike Solomon wrote: >> In current master, #'Y-extent = #(stem::length 5) does exactly what #'length >> = #5 did a week ago. > > There is essentially no different in going frmo > \override Stem #'leng

PATCH: added bonus for 20110831

2011-08-30 Thread Colin Campbell
I've been debugging a couple of 53 page spreadsheets in the last few days, so I overlooked Mike's request below. Given the recent work on flags and stems, I'd like to add his patch to last night's countdown. Cheers, Colin Original Message Subject: Going on vacation on Th

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mike Solomon wrote Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM I believe that Trevor is claiming that #(stem::length 5) is worse from a UI-perspective than #5. Yes. I think he is right insofar as stem::length means there are more things to type, No. That's not the point. A user wanting to ch

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Tue 30 Aug 2011, 15:02 I wrote: > Being a user, I often used to override 'Y-extent for some specific purposes: > > { > \override Stem #'Y-extent = #'(-10 . 0) > c''_\fermata > } Oh, yes, 2.15.9 changes stem's length. 2.15.8 and below did not change it. 2.15.8 and below changed grob's _ext

Re: stop pushing to master (contextStringTuning is broken)

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 02:11:31PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > At least until we've had two more unstable releases (.9 and .10) > > If you haven't tested your patch from a COMPLETELY EMPTY build > > directory, done make and make docs FROM SCRATCH, then don't push >

Re: stop pushing to master (contextStringTuning is broken)

2011-08-30 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > Guys, > -- > *** STOP PUSHING BROKEN STUFF TO MASTER. *** > -- > > At least until we've had two more unstable releases (.9 and .10) > If you haven't tested your patch from a C

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Tue 30 Aug 2011, 12:53 Graham Percival wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 01:45:20PM +0200, Mike Solomon wrote: > > In current master, #'Y-extent = #(stem::length 5) does exactly what > > #'length = #5 did a week ago. > > There is essentially no different in going frmo > \override Stem #'lengt

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 01:45:20PM +0200, Mike Solomon wrote: > In current master, #'Y-extent = #(stem::length 5) does exactly what #'length > = #5 did a week ago. There is essentially no different in going frmo \override Stem #'length = #5 to \override Stem #'Y-extent = #5 as far as users a

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 01:07:46PM +0200, Mike Solomon wrote: >> Bad: the user has to use a new syntax - instead of \override Stem #'length = >> #5, they need to type \override Stem #'Y-extent = #(stem::length 5) > > What's the difference (fr

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 01:07:46PM +0200, Mike Solomon wrote: > Bad: the user has to use a new syntax - instead of \override Stem #'length = > #5, they need to type \override Stem #'Y-extent = #(stem::length 5) What's the difference (from your end) between #(stem::length 5) and #5 ? > A mid-way

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
On Aug 30, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Mike Solomon wrote Monday, August 29, 2011 9:11 AM > >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 07:45:04AM +, tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com wrote: >> >>> I can't say I like this change: it makes a complex user >>> interface more complex. Shouldn't we

Re: include lines in breve X-extent (issue 1814) (issue 4931043)

2011-08-30 Thread ianhulin44
Janek, Bertrand posted some review comments here. I think it would be polite in the case of a newer contributor like Bertrand to post some responses one way or another (either "don't worry about it, because. . ." or "nice catch, I'll upload an updated patch set".) Cheers, Ian http://codereview.

Re: Gets rid of length in the docs. (issue 4965053)

2011-08-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mike Solomon wrote Monday, August 29, 2011 9:11 AM On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 07:45:04AM +, tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com wrote: I can't say I like this change: it makes a complex user interface more complex. Shouldn't we be moving in the opposite direction? I disagree. [snip descriptio

Making sure things run smoothly over the next two weeks

2011-08-30 Thread Mike Solomon
Hey all, In this e-mail are a few tips if (when) you find a bug that comes from my recent Stem, Flag, and Tremolo work. *** * FLAG extents are still kludgy. You'll see that in Flag::width, the value returned is a half stem-width thinner than the actual width. This is done to reflect how the

Re: merging regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:10 AM Subject: Re: merging regtests On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:39:06AM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:25:44AM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > As a temporary workaround, I will

stop pushing to master (contextStringTuning is broken)

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
Guys, -- *** STOP PUSHING BROKEN STUFF TO MASTER. *** -- At least until we've had two more unstable releases (.9 and .10) If you haven't tested your patch from a COMPLETELY EMPTY build directory, done m

Re: merging regtests

2011-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:39:06AM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:25:44AM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > > As a temporary workaround, I will now reduce the number of > > regression tests. In particular, I will merge the segfault > > regtests -- we don't care about the

Re: Improves horizontal spacing of axis groups that SpanBar grobs traverse. (issue 4917046)

2011-08-30 Thread mtsolo
Thanks Han-Wen! Cheers, MS http://codereview.appspot.com/4917046/diff/1/lily/align-interface.cc File lily/align-interface.cc (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/4917046/diff/1/lily/align-interface.cc#newcode399 lily/align-interface.cc:399: Align_interface::vertical_sort (Grob *g1, Grob *g2)