Re: improving the CG

2009-12-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/25/09 8:13 PM, "Mark Polesky" wrote: > Carl Sorensen wrote:> As I think more about this, I wonder if there should be > a >> short and sweet summary for experienced Linux developers, >> followed by a gentle (and longer) introduction for the >> Windows guys. > > Actually, I'm thinking the

Re: improving the CG

2009-12-25 Thread Mark Polesky
Carl Sorensen wrote:> As I think more about this, I wonder if there should be a > short and sweet summary for experienced Linux developers, > followed by a gentle (and longer) introduction for the > Windows guys. Actually, I'm thinking there should be a short and sweet summary for the GUI-based co

[patch] create xrefs from .tely

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
The attached patch lets me build xrefs by looking at Documentation/*.tely directly, instead of looking at the corresponding Documentation/out-www/*.texi files. This would be very nice for the website, since we can't build all of lilypond on the server. (the alternative is to generate the xref

Re: [PATCH] Fix #867 and other lilypond-book snippet handling

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 20:45 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > Looks fine to me, and nothing broken while doing an out-of-tree build > from scratch. Pushed. I finally decided to keep the diff generation, because this allows us to reliably catch hash collisions, and with last doc build I onl

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 23:56 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > I agree that if we make the change, we'd need to have lots of warning about > it. > > If we want to do the change, there's two possibilities: > > 1) ask the savannah people to change the name. If we go for this, which I wou

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
2009/12/25 John Mandereau : > Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 22:04 +, Graham Percival a écrit : >>   Should we ask the -user-fr >> people to accept a name change to lilypond-fr ? > > This is perfectly acceptable, and I think a confirmation of Valentin, > the other administrator, will be enough

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
2009/12/25 John Mandereau : > Then the software should be fixed.  The lack of proper UTF-8 support is > really a pity in 2009 (2010 soon). Oh, I definitely agree! But that's outside my control. > I'd rather not attach too many things to google code project, for the > sake of our independence, wh

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 22:04 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > My tentative answer is that we could create an official > language-specific list for any translation that finished the > top-priority items (IIRC, the website + Learning 1 Tutorial). > Thoughts? This is basically what happened

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 22:08 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > 3) Given that there's some kind of problems with accents with > savannah lists (I haven't grasped what it is, but read > https://savannah.gnu.org/task/?9148 > if you're interested), is it really good to have these non-English

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 22:17 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > The regtests are not used in the docs. Period. > > It's possible that a new feature might a file in > Documentation/snippets/new/ which is an exact copy of a new > regtest (actually, I've encouraged this), but we don't have m

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:21:17AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 22:21 +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : > > I would definitely like that option. Every now and then, when working with > > lilypond-book based projects, I also need to send e.g. an image per mail or >

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:02:03AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 20:52 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > I can now confirm that the regtest comparison is done on the files in > > input/regression/out-test/ , which are created via "make test". > > More precisely, the

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > But before we do this, I'd like to > settle a few questions: Oops, I forgot to add 3) Given that there's some kind of problems with accents with savannah lists (I haven't grasped what it is, but read https://savannah.gnu.org/task/?9148

Re: New LilyPond Spanish Users list at GNU

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 12/23/09 5:37 PM, "Francisco Vila" wrote: > >>   "Ask the LilyPond mantainer to create the list in their project. " > > So all we need to do is get Graham, Jan, or Han-Wen to add a list > lilypond-es.  I think we could get one of them

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 14:57 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > I was wondering if I was wrong about texinfo. It's been known to > happen. Texinfo is not a well-defined language, it's defined only by what the formatters support and to some extent by Texinfo manual, so it's practically imp

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 03:54:06PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 14:29 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > > ..but see Texi2HTML warnings if "@insertcopying{}" is used. > > > > I know about those warnings. > > Then, why the mao do you waste our time with this thre

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 14:29 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > ..but see Texi2HTML warnings if "@insertcopying{}" is used. > > I know about those warnings. Then, why the mao do you waste our time with this thread? :-) > I guess that in this case, it doesn't really matter. Indeed, th

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:22:21AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 21:17 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > commit 6c1cdaa331972442a8fd62d98da5adebfaa9a17b > > > > I thought that texinfo macros were supposed to have a {} after them -- > > I mean, it's not /required/ fo

(not) factorizing xref macro definitions [was Re: [PATCH] Update & announcement]

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 10 décembre 2009 à 15:50 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > Ok. Let's just agree to disagree: you think it's important, but I > don't think it's important. If somebody (be it you or Denes) > writes a patch, I'm willing to test it on GUB. I just tried factorizing French macro definitions

Re: New template for 'lilypond' made available

2009-12-25 Thread Erwin Poeze
Best wishes to you and the development team as well! Op vrijdag 25-12-2009 om 11:13 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef John Mandereau: > Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Erwin Poeze a écrit : > > Sorry, about this. It was done by me, the TP coordinator. I have the > > habit of checking for n

Re: @insertcopying

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 21:17 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > commit 6c1cdaa331972442a8fd62d98da5adebfaa9a17b > > I thought that texinfo macros were supposed to have a {} after them -- > I mean, it's not /required/ for arguments without any macros, but...? ..but see Texi2HTML warnings if "

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 22:21 +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : > I would definitely like that option. Every now and then, when working with > lilypond-book based projects, I also need to send e.g. an image per mail or > insert an image into some word-processing app. In these cases, such an

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 10:18 -0800, Patrick McCarty a écrit : > Thank you for noticing this, John. I'll admit I did not think through > the issue carefully enough when I made that commit. > > I'm not qualified to comment on your patch to fix the issue, but I > trust your judgment here. OK,

Re: New template for 'lilypond' made available

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 25 décembre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Erwin Poeze a écrit : > Sorry, about this. It was done by me, the TP coordinator. I have the > habit of checking for newer domain versions on an irregular base and > noticed that the 2.13.7 was newer that the 2.13.3 version in the TP. > Getting new versio

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 19:30 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > Ah, we're talking about two different kinds of hashes. One hash > decides if the snippet should be (re)processed -- I don't care > about that one. Do whatever seems sensible for that. > > The other kind of hashing produces the

Re: lilypond-book is hosed

2009-12-25 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 24 décembre 2009 à 20:52 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > I can now confirm that the regtest comparison is done on the files in > input/regression/out-test/ , which are created via "make test". More precisely, the comparison is done between input/regression/out-test/ and input/regressio

Re: Catching up on bugs

2009-12-25 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:25 AM, James Bailey wrote: > > On 24.12.2009, at 23:57, Joe Neeman wrote: >> >>> profile-property-access.ly errors and fails when I try to compile it. >>> Additionally, the properties shown in the output are all 0 >> >> You need to configure with --disable-optimising in

Re: Catching up on bugs

2009-12-25 Thread James Bailey
On 24.12.2009, at 23:57, Joe Neeman wrote: profile-property-access.ly errors and fails when I try to compile it. Additionally, the properties shown in the output are all 0 You need to configure with --disable-optimising in order for property access profiling to work. Okay, since I can't com