Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Chubb
I reckon it'd be better to split the whole thing into three entries. Whether an instrument transposes or not has nothing to do with concert pitch. Here's my rough try at the three entries: Concert Pitch: Notes like a, b, c etc., describe a relationship between themselves, not an absolute pitch.

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:48:15PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > Patrick, > > I applied this patch. I actually had to redo it, because I changed > define-grobs.scm first, so the patch wouldn't apply. But it's > applied now, along with the changes to lily/beam.cc and > scm/define-grob-interfac

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 06:11:32PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > I'm going to step in here, perhaps where wise men fear to tread. > > The LilyPond music glossary isn't intended to be a definitive music > dictionary, is it? Nope, not at all. > So do we care what reference concert pitch uses?

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Patrick, I applied this patch. I actually had to redo it, because I changed define-grobs.scm first, so the patch wouldn't apply. But it's applied now, along with the changes to lily/beam.cc and scm/define-grob-interfaces.scm so that details works as desired for beams. Thanks for your help in ge

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/6/09 6:41 PM, "Paul Scott" wrote: > Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> So do we care what reference concert pitch uses? Does it matter if it's >> A=440, or A=445, or A=450? >> > > Some of us care for a non-notational reason: Woodwinds are built to > specific proportions which make them much

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Paul Scott
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: I'm going to step in here, perhaps where wise men fear to tread. The LilyPond music glossary isn't intended to be a definitive music dictionary, is it? Nope. A basic understanding of transposition should be all that is important here. So do we care what reference

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
I'm going to step in here, perhaps where wise men fear to tread. The LilyPond music glossary isn't intended to be a definitive music dictionary, is it? So do we care what reference concert pitch uses? Does it matter if it's A=440, or A=445, or A=450? Aren't the key issues that: 1) Concert pit

Re: inter-quant-penalty in beaming

2009-04-06 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > I've been working on fixing the documentation of details for beaming. > > One of the parameters in details is inter-quant-penalty. > > However, this property is only read in lily/beam-quanting.cc; it is never > used. > > Further, a git grep

inter-quant-penalty in beaming

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
I've been working on fixing the documentation of details for beaming. One of the parameters in details is inter-quant-penalty. However, this property is only read in lily/beam-quanting.cc; it is never used. Further, a git grep for inter-quant-penalty returns only the single reference in lily/bea

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread demery
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009, "Anthony W. Youngman" said: > Sounds good. one down? !!! > I think it's your use of "informally adopted" that jars - it implies > that they've ignored the Standard, when the standard didn't even exist > at the time. didnt have any one particular standard in mind; when o

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message , dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us writes On Sun, Apr 5, 2009, "Anthony W. Youngman" said: Okay, we've got more feedback (isn't this fun :-). welcome to electronic commiteedom :-) 1.64 Concert pitch The convention (standardised by ISO 16) that A above middle C represents the note at 44

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/6/09 12:44 PM, "Patrick McCarty" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 07:46:41AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> >> So the new assignment, then, is to modify the *.cc file for each >> object that has a details property so that the elements of the >> details are included. I haven't rev

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread demery
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009, "Anthony W. Youngman" said: > Okay, we've got more feedback (isn't this fun :-). welcome to electronic commiteedom :-) > 1.64 Concert pitch > > The convention (standardised by ISO 16) that A above middle C represents > the note at 440 Hertz. This is commonly notated by t

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 07:46:41AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > On 4/6/09 7:10 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" wrote: > > > > What do you mean? The way it's done for the Stem related > > subproperties is that the documentation is included together with > > the other stem-interface documentation at the

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: The way it's done for the Stem related subproperties is that the documentation is included together with the other stem-interface documentation at the end of the file lily/stem.cc. ... Ahh -OK. I had missed the description at the top, and had just noticed that

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/6/09 7:10 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" wrote: >>> Thanks Mats, I did not think of doing that. >>> >>> This will be a task in itself. For example, Tie has 26 different >>> subproperties of 'details to document! >>> >>> >> >> This documentation *has* to be automatically generated.

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 4/6/09 3:48 AM, "Patrick McCarty" wrote: On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:37:09AM +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote: So, is the patch okay as it is? Don't refer to *.cc files for more information on the subproperties in deta

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/6/09 3:48 AM, "Patrick McCarty" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:37:09AM +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote: >> >> >> Patrick McCarty wrote: >>> >>> So, is the patch okay as it is? >>> >> Don't refer to *.cc files for more information on the subproperties in >> details. These are (or at

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:37:09AM +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > > > Patrick McCarty wrote: >> >> So, is the patch okay as it is? >> > Don't refer to *.cc files for more information on the subproperties in > details. These are (or at least should be) described in the > corresponding *-inter

Re: Reverting Beat Grouping Commands

2009-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl I would have liked to tackle this, but I think it is beyond my skills at the moment. Changes will be needed to C++ code to implement the new beam sub-dividing at least, and I have no means of compiling LilyPond for testing. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Carl D. Sorensen

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Hans Aberg
On 6 Apr 2009, at 00:11, Hans Aberg wrote: Depending on the design of the instrument, some instruments have a lowest (pedal) note whose wavelength is twice the length of the instrument and can play all harmonics thereof (1/2, 2/2, 3/2...), while others have a pedal note whose wavelength is fo

Re: [PATCH] Docs: IR: Move 'details to user grob property list

2009-04-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Patrick McCarty wrote: On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 01:53:43PM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 4/3/09 1:43 PM, "Patrick McCarty" wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Unfortunately, there are different 'details lists for different grobs, so there's n