Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/2/09 9:01 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:56:18PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> On 1/2/09 12:30 PM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: >> >>> I agree; that's why it is important to set out the standards >>> clearly and to ensure they are consistent with clarity.

Re: Updates to fret-diagrams

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/2/09 9:16 PM, "Joe Neeman" wrote: > On Saturday 03 January 2009 02:30:36 pm Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> Thanks for the review, Joe. >> >> On 1/2/09 4:17 PM, "joenee...@gmail.com" wrote: >>> Reviewers: Carl.D.Sorensen, >>> >>> >>> http://codereview.appspot.com/11857/diff/1/2 >>> File inpu

Re: Updates to fret-diagrams

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Neeman
On Saturday 03 January 2009 02:30:36 pm Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > Thanks for the review, Joe. > > On 1/2/09 4:17 PM, "joenee...@gmail.com" wrote: > > Reviewers: Carl.D.Sorensen, > > > > > > http://codereview.appspot.com/11857/diff/1/2 > > File input/regression/fret-diagrams.ly (right): > > > > htt

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:56:18PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > On 1/2/09 12:30 PM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > > > I agree; that's why it is important to set out the standards > > clearly and to ensure they are consistent with clarity. Look > > at chapter 3. Mao. I only just noticed that

Re: Updates to fret-diagrams

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Thanks for the review, Joe. On 1/2/09 4:17 PM, "joenee...@gmail.com" wrote: > Reviewers: Carl.D.Sorensen, > > > http://codereview.appspot.com/11857/diff/1/2 > File input/regression/fret-diagrams.ly (right): > > http://codereview.appspot.com/11857/diff/1/2#newcode1 > Line 1: \version "2.12.0"

Re: contributor/user split in docs

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 03:55:47PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le jeudi 01 janvier 2009 à 21:26 -0800, Graham Percival a écrit : > > > This will contain the INSTALL docs, doc policy, "working with > > texinfo" stuff, the git guide, info about what all the branches > > Good idea, but if we go f

bugfix patch reviewing -- fixed emails

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
(sorry Joe, I messed up your email. Fixed now) Hi guys, How much oversight should the Frog patches receive? These patches have been reviewed by Carl. They compile cleanly, adhere to our code standards (to the extent that Carl understands them), and appear to fix the bug. I see three proposa

bugfix patch reviewing

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
Hi guys, How much oversight should the Frog patches receive? These patches have been reviewed by Carl. They compile cleanly, adhere to our code standards (to the extent that Carl understands them), and appear to fix the bug. I see three proposals: 1) Let Carl commit whatever patches he has rev

Re: About Learning Manual

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hello, Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 16:50 +, Sawada, Yoshiki a écrit : > I am translating LilyPond Learning Manual Ver. 2.11.62 (not the latest > Version) > to Japanese (see > http://irjb.s346.xrea.com/wiki/LilyPond+Learning+Manual.html). Congratulations for this big amount of work! Would

Re: Reorganization of Docs

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/2/09 6:16 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 06:41:20AM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> In my mind, displayMusic and displayLilyMusic are parallel functions, both > > Ok then, I'll go along with it. > >> Perhaps you should know that I am also proposing a name c

Re: Reorganization of Docs

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 06:41:20AM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > In my mind, displayMusic and displayLilyMusic are parallel functions, both Ok then, I'll go along with it. > Perhaps you should know that I am also proposing a name change to NR 6, from > "Interfaces for programming" to "Exten

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 04:48:35PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > That said, I'll definitely try the suggestions you've given me, just for > the fun of it. I don't mind using included local files and of course I > do it in many of my scores. Where I thought this feature might help is > in sh

Updates to fret-diagrams

2009-01-02 Thread joeneeman
Reviewers: Carl.D.Sorensen, http://codereview.appspot.com/11857/diff/1/2 File input/regression/fret-diagrams.ly (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/11857/diff/1/2#newcode1 Line 1: \version "2.12.0" This regtest is getting quite large. Is there a logical way to split it up (eg. fret-diagrams-

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Bertalan Fodor wrote: Yes, using guile you can download the file to /tmp for example and then include that. Like this: #(remote-include "http://www.whatnote.com/style.ly"; "/tmp/whatnote-style.ly") \include "/tmp/whatnote-style.ly" For implementing remote-include a call to wget could be enough

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 23:26 +0100, Valentin Villenave a écrit : > Gosh, John was faster than me :) I was this time only, but I go back to studies next Tuesday. Cheers, John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.g

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Yes, using guile you can download the file to /tmp for example and then include that. Like this: #(remote-include "http://www.whatnote.com/style.ly"; "/tmp/whatnote-style.ly") \include "/tmp/whatnote-style.ly" For implementing remote-include a call to wget could be enough: #(define remote-incl

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/1/2 John Mandereau : > This looks like a pie-in-the-sky feature: we'd have to add networking > support in LilyPond, it's not obvious to support it for all OSes; maybe > using a Python script for downloading would work? Gosh, John was faster than me :) Cheers, Valentin _

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/1/2 Jonathan Kulp : > It occurred to me today that it would be nice if Lilypond could use \include > to include files that are hosted on a website, the way html pages use > stylesheets. Something like this: > > \include "http://www.websiteaddress.com/definitions.ly"; As far as I know, a web

Re: using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 16:11 -0600, Jonathan Kulp a écrit : > It occurred to me today that it would be nice if Lilypond could use > \include to include files that are hosted on a website, the way html > pages use stylesheets. Something like this: > > \include "http://www.websiteaddress.c

using \include for remote files

2009-01-02 Thread Jonathan Kulp
It occurred to me today that it would be nice if Lilypond could use \include to include files that are hosted on a website, the way html pages use stylesheets. Something like this: \include "http://www.websiteaddress.com/definitions.ly"; Is this something that's feasible? I tried just adding

Re: feature req: volta bar numbering options

2009-01-02 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <450977.38398...@web83407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, Mark Polesky writes Anthony, Responding late, I know, but with about ONE exception, all the music I see follows lily's current behaviour. Which scores/publishers have you found that match the current behavior? I'm a band musician (b

SCons support in LilyPond

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Jan, Have you any plan for maintaining Scons support in LilyPond? The Python code hasn't been updated to be compatible with Python 2.6/3.0, and it calls scripts in stepmake/bin or buildscripts that have been removed several years ago. If we have no interest in maintaining this, I propose to r

Re: Patch review for fret diagrams

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 18:37 +, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > I haven't heard anything back on this patch, probably because I chose a bad > subject line. I'd appreciate if it could be reviewed. The recommended subject is "[PATCH] subject of the patch" regardless of the form of the patch (

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/2/09 12:30 PM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > > > Carl D. Sorensen wrote Friday, January 02, 2009 1:44 PM > >> On 1/2/09 2:32 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: >>> >>> Carl D. Sorensen wrote Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:52 PM >>> On 1/1/09 11:25 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: >>> >>> Yes,

Re: Reorganization of Docs

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
OK Carl, you've convinced me. Well, sort of. It was the realisation that \displayLilyMusic would be very useful for checking the output of a Scheme function which created music while it was being developed that really convinced me. It should be in NR 6, Trevor - Original Message - Fr

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen wrote Friday, January 02, 2009 1:44 PM On 1/2/09 2:32 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:52 PM On 1/1/09 11:25 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: I think we already have clear standards for revision under GOP -- they're the sam

Patch review for fret diagrams

2009-01-02 Thread Carl Sorensen
Carl D. Sorensen byu.edu> writes: > > Happy new year, all! > > I've completed a major patch of fret diagrams, adding a new orientation and > cleaning up a bunch of ugly stuff in the code. > > Please review the patch at > http://codereview.appspot.com/11857/diff/1/3 > > Thanks, > > Carl > I

Re: About Learning Manual

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/2/09 9:50 AM, "Sawada, Yoshiki" wrote: > Hello, everyone. And Happy New Year!! > > I am translating LilyPond Learning Manual Ver. 2.11.62 (not the latest > Version) > to Japanese (see > http://irjb.s346.xrea.com/wiki/LilyPond+Learning+Manual.html). > And I have a few requests. > > > 1

About Learning Manual

2009-01-02 Thread Sawada , Yoshiki
Hello, everyone. And Happy New Year!! I am translating LilyPond Learning Manual Ver. 2.11.62 (not the latest Version) to Japanese (see http://irjb.s346.xrea.com/wiki/LilyPond+Learning+Manual.html). And I have a few requests. 1. Appendix B In the line 203 - 204 in the HTML code of Ver. 2.12.1: It

incorrect bbox values for EPS images

2009-01-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
It seems that lilypond computes incorrect bbox values for EPS images. While the top, left, and right side is OK, the bottom is always too far away by a certain (fixed?) amount. Looks like a bug... Werner <>___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-

Re: contributor/user split in docs

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 01 janvier 2009 à 21:26 -0800, Graham Percival a écrit : > While I was working on the new website, I realized that the info I > was adding would work better as a manual rather than a few web > pages. Therefore, in Feb (after 2.13 starts), I'll be creating a > new manual: the Contributor's

Re: 2.12.1 out; announcements and normal stable

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 13:34 +, Ian Hulin a écrit : > Grahame, His name is Graham. > Can you, John or Han-Wen do > gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.announce? Some time has flown since 2.12.1, so I just did it. We are a bit confused, as 2.12 stable series begin while tasks with high responsab

Re: Keep git-update-changelog.py?

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/2/09 6:31 AM, "John Mandereau" wrote: > Do we want to keep buildscripts/git-update-changelog.py? > > This script was designed to update Savannah CVS with changes made in > git.or.cz Git repository during the transition between the two revision > systems. We no longer need this script fo

Re: contributor/user split in docs

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/1/09 10:26 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > Hi all, > > While I was working on the new website, I realized that the info I > was adding would work better as a manual rather than a few web > pages. Therefore, in Feb (after 2.13 starts), I'll be creating a > new manual: the Contributor's Gu

Re: 2.12.1 out; announcements and normal stable

2009-01-02 Thread Ian Hulin
Grahame, Can you, John or Han-Wen do gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.announce? Cheers, Ian ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/2/09 2:32 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > > > Carl D. Sorensen wrote Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:52 PM > >> On 1/1/09 11:25 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > >> >> I think we already have clear standards for revision under GOP -- they're >> the same as for the GDP. Unless you are propo

Re: Reorganization of Docs

2009-01-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Trevor wrote: > > I agree with Graham. \displayLilyMusic has nothing to > do with the internal representation of music. It simply > shows the effect of \transpose. Graham wrote: > > Transposing. Also, translating from relative to absolute. Hey, I > never claimed that it was *vitally us

Keep git-update-changelog.py?

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Do we want to keep buildscripts/git-update-changelog.py? This script was designed to update Savannah CVS with changes made in git.or.cz Git repository during the transition between the two revision systems. We no longer need this script for this purpose, but with a bit of hacking we could still u

Re: feature req: volta bar numbering options

2009-01-02 Thread Mark Polesky
Anthony, > Responding late, I know, but with about ONE exception, > all the music I see follows lily's current behaviour. Which scores/publishers have you found that match the current behavior? I recently acquired several notation manuals, and Gardner Read doesn't mention numbering measures. H

Texi2html requirement -- 1.80 is out

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hello, Texi2html 1.80 is out! Do you think it's all right to remove support for "makeinfo --html" in one week? I think we should support Texi2html 1.80 during all 2.12 series and not require Texi2html from CVS again before we start 2.13. Cheers, John _

Re: gub3 binaries, please test

2009-01-02 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op donderdag 01-01-2009 om 18:32 uur [tijdzone -0200], schreef Han-Wen Nienhuys: > mismatch somewhere. Interestingly, if I run > > [lily...@haring glibc-core-2.3]$ pwd > /home/lilydev/vc/gub3/target/linux-x86/build/glibc-core-2.3 > [lily...@haring glibc-core-2.3]$ ls > ls: libc.so.6: version `GL

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:26 PM Much of the LM was written before this policy was instated, so other forms tend to be used there, like @subsubheading and others which just use a @bo...@italic{..} one line paragraph, and as the LM hasn't yet been revised these non-stand

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen wrote Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:52 PM On 1/1/09 11:25 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: Graham During GDP we experimented with various headings for the levels below @subsection and I thought we had standardised on @unnumberedsubsubsec with @node and a menu entry. At least t

Re: Reorganization of Docs

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl I agree with Graham. \displayLilyMusic has nothing to do with the internal representation of music. It simply shows the effect of \transpose. Are you thinking of \displayMusic maybe, which is already in NR 6? Trevor Carl D. Sorensen wrote Friday, January 02, 2009 6:14 AM On 1/1/09 9:5

Re: Reorganization of Docs

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 11:14:28PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > On 1/1/09 9:51 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > Assuming you're talking about the NR, I kind-of like that material > > where it is. As the examples show, it can be useful for > > non-programming stuff. How do you feel abou