Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Bertalan Fodor wrote: Well, we have a webpage about at least one quite good editor: http://lilypondtool.organum.hu ;-) So spend 30 minutes and create a general editor webpage for lilypond. If you omit emacs or vim you'll probably have a riot, but you only need one paragraph about each. Then

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Well, we have a webpage about at least one quite good editor: http://lilypondtool.organum.hu ;-) Graham Percival írta: Bertalan Fodor wrote: I don't think it should be in the manual at all; I'd prefer this info to be on the webpages. Ok, but the link to the webpage about editors should be a

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Bertalan Fodor wrote: I don't think it should be in the manual at all; I'd prefer this info to be on the webpages. Ok, but the link to the webpage about editors should be at an emphasized place in the doc. We don't _have_ a webpage about editors. At least, not that I'm aware of. Cheers, -

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I don't think it should be in the manual at all; I'd prefer this info to be on the webpages. Ok, but the link to the webpage about editors should be at an emphasized place in the doc. Bert ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org htt

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Some more information that might be worth adding already in the tutorial (again specifically for Windows): Thanks, I did all these updates. Finally, it's probably a good idea to add a footnote with a link to some overview of different text editors, since the one supplied

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Bertalan Fodor wrote: Finally, it's probably a good idea to add a footnote with a link to some overview of different text editors, since the one supplied with LilyPond on Windows and probably also on Mac is fairly rudimentary. This should replace the current footnote 1. I don't think it shou

Re: assert in page breaking

2007-01-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Joe Neeman escreveu: > On 1/24/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> + if (chunks.size () != div.size () + 1) >> +{ >> + programming_error ("did not find a valid page breaking >> configuration"); >> + ignore_div = true; >> + assert (0); >> >> >> this is better, but

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Finally, it's probably a good idea to add a footnote with a link to some overview of different text editors, since the one supplied with LilyPond on Windows and probably also on Mac is fairly rudimentary. This should replace the current footnote 1. I don't think it should be a footnote. Using

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote: - The instructions for Windows need some polishing. Basically, you could more or less the same as on Mac, namely double-click the LilyPond icon on the desktop to start a simple text editor. I can come back with more details when I have a Windows

Re: assert in page breaking

2007-01-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Joe Neeman escreveu: > On 1/24/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Joe Neeman escreveu: >> > On 1/24/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> + if (chunks.size () != div.size () + 1) >> >> +{ >> >> + programming_error ("did not find a valid page breaking >> >>

Re: assert in page breaking

2007-01-24 Thread Joe Neeman
On 1/24/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Joe Neeman escreveu: > On 1/24/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> + if (chunks.size () != div.size () + 1) >> +{ >> + programming_error ("did not find a valid page breaking >> configuration"); >> + ignore_div =

Re: assert in page breaking

2007-01-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Joe Neeman escreveu: > On 1/24/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> + if (chunks.size () != div.size () + 1) >> +{ >> + programming_error ("did not find a valid page breaking >> configuration"); >> + ignore_div = true; >> + assert (0); >> >> >> this is better, but

Re: assert in page breaking

2007-01-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Joe Neeman escreveu: > On 1/24/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> + if (chunks.size () != div.size () + 1) >> +{ >> + programming_error ("did not find a valid page breaking >> configuration"); >> + ignore_div = true; >> + assert (0); >> >> >> this is better, but

Re: assert in page breaking

2007-01-24 Thread Joe Neeman
On 1/24/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: + if (chunks.size () != div.size () + 1) +{ + programming_error ("did not find a valid page breaking configuration"); + ignore_div = true; + assert (0); this is better, but can we skip the assert()? If this assert fai

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
One general note about these categories: The LSR is still perfectly usable on its own. You can search for words (ie "articulation" or "scheme" or "lyrics"). If you _want_, you could filter the search by these categories... but the main point of the categories is for the semi-automatic import

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival escreveu: > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >> >> Why do you use exclusive categories? Isn't it better to devise some >> sort of tagging scheme, eg. > > I'm reluctant to propose something unless I can do it myself (or if it's > a clear feature request). And I don't want to put LSR on hol

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Why is scheme programming so special? If I, as an ordinary user, want to solve a certain typesetting problem, I mostly don't have any idea if the solution requires Scheme programming or not and at least as long as the solution can be copy/pasted into my own file as it is,

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Why do you use exclusive categories? Isn't it better to devise some sort of tagging scheme, eg. I'm reluctant to propose something unless I can do it myself (or if it's a clear feature request). And I don't want to put LSR on hold for another year while we wait for

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: Agree! Often such division into different categories don't help at all, they just give you more places to search from. Other than one example (scheme programming), I have no objection to this -- but please don't say "text, lyrics, articulation etc". I'd like to dis

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Alard de Boer wrote: The tutorial is great! Some minor comments: 2.1.1 second footnote: These easiest -> The easiest 2.1.1 Section MacOS X, 2nd par: lilypond -> LilyPond (all other uses except the Unix command line have the two capital letters) 2.3.1 3rd paragraph: means that are -> means that

assert in page breaking

2007-01-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
+ if (chunks.size () != div.size () + 1) +{ + programming_error ("did not find a valid page breaking configuration"); + ignore_div = true; + assert (0); this is better, but can we skip the assert()? The problem with assert is that it prevents people from getting a PDF and loo

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Han-Wen Nienhuys escreveu: > - produce a page per tag: a page for all lyrics examples, a page for >all piano stuff etc. > >This is a bit unnatural, though, so it would be better if we could >find some lightweight method to dynamically generate those >pages. It be possible with jav

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival escreveu: >> Agree! Often such division into different categories don't help at >> all, they just give you more places to search from. > > Other than one example (scheme programming), I have no objection to this > -- but please don't say "text, lyrics, articulation etc". I'd like

Re: proofreading tutorial

2007-01-24 Thread Alard de Boer
On 23/01/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The rewritten tutorial is online, http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Tutorial Could a few people proofread it? In the near future the translation teams will be working on it, so it would be good if we finalized node

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Bertalan Fodor wrote: I feel that these categories are not leading the mind. Users usually wants to make a graphical representation of some music, and not doing scheme, or trick, or whatever. For example, many tweaks are ''simple'' ''scheme-trick''s, that (naturally) inv

Absolute paths in point-and-click (was: landscape orientation not working.)

2007-01-24 Thread Alard de Boer
On 24/01/07, Ted Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you, that worked very nicely. Results here: http://hymns.reactor-core.org/SacredHarp/Pilgrim.pdf (forwarded from the user-list) I opened this file (just to see what Sacred Harp music looks like :) and noticed that the point-and-click

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Bertalan Fodor wrote: I feel that these categories are not leading the mind. Users usually wants to make a graphical representation of some music, and not doing scheme, or trick, or whatever. For example, many tweaks are ''simple'' ''scheme-trick''s, that (naturally) involves some ''scheme-pr

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I feel that these categories are not leading the mind. Users usually wants to make a graphical representation of some music, and not doing scheme, or trick, or whatever. For example, many tweaks are ''simple'' ''scheme-trick''s, that (naturally) involves some ''scheme-programming''... I'd better

Re: LSR categories

2007-01-24 Thread yota moteuchi
could LSR tweaks be accessible from the corresponding chapter in the user documentation ? On the part concerning dynamics, at the end one could put a link to the most significant tricks concerning dynamics etc. About your classification I would have chosen a thematic based one. When I use LSR, I

broken lyric example

2007-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
Could somebody check why this doesn't compile in 2.11.13 ? It's the first example of "Lyrics to multiple notes of a melisma" I'm suspicious about the multiple lyrics to the same context, but as far as I can see, nobody's changed this example in a while. << \relative \new Voice = "lahlah" {