Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 11:51 AM Gil Yehuda via License-discuss < license-discuss@lists.opensource.org> wrote: > Thank you Stuart, you are right. The fear of losing control is a big part > of this. Josh, indeed. All code is based on other code. This is why there's > such a conflict. Russel, I'm ask

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

On 3/1/2020 5:58 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Is that so in the USA? Here it reads more like the exclusive exploitation > rights belong to the employer when done as part of hired work, but the > moral rights belong to the natural person who created it. There is no legally cognizable moral right i

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

Gil Yehuda via License-discuss dixit: >Sometimes she'll say, "but it's my code." and I'll say, technically it's This is weird. I can differentiate between author and licensor. >work for hire that you assigned the copyrights to the company, but I Is that so in the USA? Here it reads more like th

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

Gil, Thanks for asking the question; it is a topic that has always fascinated me. My belief based on my personal experience only is that software may be unusual in authors /not/ feeling that they have a strong sense of ownership of their work, regardless of who the legal owner is. I learned v

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

Thank you Stuart, you are right. The fear of losing control is a big part of this. Josh, indeed. All code is based on other code. This is why there's such a conflict. Russel, I'm asking about all code authors because there are many ways to view this. A few times a year I get a report of code on Gi

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:31 AM Gil Yehuda via License-discuss < license-discuss@lists.opensource.org> wrote: > I'm exploring the psychological relationship between the author of a work, > and the work. i.e. parsing the phrase "my open source code" and would like > your thoughts. > What you appe

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

On 2/28/20 8:15 AM, Gil Yehuda via License-discuss wrote: > 1. When I use open source code in my solution, I still feel that my > solution is mine (even though others wrote some of it). > 2. When my code is used by others, I don't feel less attached to my > code. It still feels mine. > 3

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

I'm exploring the psychological relationship between the author of a work, and the work. i.e. parsing the phrase "my open source code" and would like your thoughts. Assume I need an algorithm, say the quadratic formula. Option A

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

Hi Nicholas, On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, at 14:07, Nicholas Matthew Neft Weinstock wrote: > As an analogy, think about an artist during the Renaissance. Thanks for your analogy. Your text as well as Gil's framing question about "how our creation is used" reminded me of a conversation I had with an art

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

wns the copyright. I think this is a legal reflection of the emotional connection to the work that persists even after the legal ownership is transferred to a new owner. Thanks, Nicholas Weinstock From: License-discuss On Behalf Of Gil Yehuda via License-discuss Sent: Friday, February 28, 2

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

A mid-conversation thank you to those who have contributed so far. Nicholas, you are bringing excellent clarifications, especially around the parameters of copyright. Others shared really nice ideas about they see sharing. But I also run into people who relate to code differently, and that's the cu

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

** Although I am a practicing attorney, this should not be viewed as legal advice. I am only providing my own thoughts on the subject for the purpose of participating in discussion of a topic that I find interesting. Also, note that the law is much deeper than the points I'm touching upon here.

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > It’s mine, I crafted the work, so I have a certain amount of pride > in it (“Werksstolz” in German). However I’m standing on the shoulders > of giants (those who created Unix/BSD, MuseScore, the canon of the > fandom I’m writing fanfics

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

Christopher Sean Morrison via License-discuss dixit: >This exploration is a beautiful change of pace that I can get behind, Agreed, something positive for once! […] >across multiple projects, but I actually don’t perceive any of it as >“my code” even where the inception, authorship, and sharing

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:16 AM Gil Yehuda via License-discuss < license-discuss@lists.opensource.org> wrote: > >1. When I use open source code in my solution, I still feel that my >solution is mine (even though others wrote some of it). >2. When my code is used by others, I don't fe

Re: [License-discuss] exploring the attachment between the author and the code

This exploration is a beautiful change of pace that I can get behind, so thanks Gil! I would offer a counter-perspective to your code ownership claim. I’ve authored and modified more than a million lines of code over decades across multiple projects, but I actually don’t perceive any of it as