On Thu, 2015-07-02 at 19:34 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:40:10 +0200
> Michael Stahl wrote:
>
> > On 24.06.2015 23:26, toki wrote:
>
> > > That is part of the reason why I think the whole Western/CJKV/CTL
> > > split should be thrown out, and replaced with language/w
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:40:10 +0200
Michael Stahl wrote:
> On 24.06.2015 23:26, toki wrote:
> > That is part of the reason why I think the whole Western/CJKV/CTL
> > split should be thrown out, and replaced with language/writing
> > system, supplemented by locale data.
> that's a great idea in t
On 06/29/2015 09:31 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> Do you mean 'script' when you say 'writing system'? Few languages
> share a writing system - Welsh, English, French and German have four
> different writing systems.
Welsh, English, French, and German use one writing system --- the Latin
Writ
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:48:05 +0200
Eike Rathke wrote:
> On Monday, 2015-06-29 20:40:46 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > We already handle this at the text shaping level in VCL for
> > platforms where HarfBuzz is used.
> I think we talk about two different things here.
Yes. Khaled and I are foc
Hi Richard,
On Monday, 2015-06-29 22:27:45 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> 1) Determine script from character(s).
>
> 2) Categorise script as Western/CTL/CJK
Sounds good.
> 3) Locale is then the Western locale, the CTL locale or the CJK locale
> as appropriate.
That's more or less what we
Hi Khaled,
On Monday, 2015-06-29 20:40:46 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > > The script is generally implicit in the text.
> >
> > You want to rely on automatic detection of scripts depending on the
> > language chosen? Do you plan to implement that? However, even then the
> > resulting tag would
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:26:50 +
toki wrote:
> I'll simply point to the current version of Microsoft Office, which is
> claimed, by Microsoft, to support more than 7,000 languages.
>
> As far as UI design goes, there are at least four options.
> 1) Offer everything, listed alphabetically;
> 2)
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:40:46 +0200
Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:14:44PM +0200, Eike Rathke wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > On Wednesday, 2015-06-24 20:54:54 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> >
> > > The script is generally implicit in the text.
> >
> > You want to rely on a
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:14:44PM +0200, Eike Rathke wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> On Wednesday, 2015-06-24 20:54:54 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
>
> > The script is generally implicit in the text.
>
> You want to rely on automatic detection of scripts depending on the
> language chosen? Do you
Hi Richard,
On Thursday, 2015-06-25 23:36:52 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> aLocale.Country = ""
> aLocale.Language = "qlt"
> aLocale.Variant = "khb-CN"
Note that if the language tag consists only of an ISO 639 language code
and an ISO 3166 country code you do not need the "qlt"-Variant
mech
Hi Richard,
On Wednesday, 2015-06-24 20:54:54 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> > > >* Be able to associate a language with CTL/CJK.
>
> > > This is impossible for a few languages. Several languages exist in
> > > competing scripts of different categories - Sanskrit and Pali may be
> > > writt
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:54:54 +0100
Richard Wordingham wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:31:16 +0200
> Eike Rathke wrote:
> > Simply in a css::lang::Locale set the Language field to "qlt" and in
> > the Variant have the language tag, see
> > http://api.libreoffice.org/docs/idl/ref/structcom_1_1sun
On 06/24/2015 09:40 PM, Michael Stahl wrote:
>> That is part of the reason why I think the whole Western/CJKV/CTL split
>> should be thrown out, and replaced with language/writing system,
> that's a great idea in theory, unfortunately it would throw out any hope of
> compatibility with Micros
On 24.06.2015 23:26, toki wrote:
> On 06/24/2015 07:54 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote:
>
>> script for a barely supported writing system, let alone the class of script.
>> My thought was that the language code would suffice. The script is
> generally implicit in the text.
>
> That is part of the r
On 06/24/2015 07:54 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> script for a barely supported writing system, let alone the class of script.
> My thought was that the language code would suffice. The script is
generally implicit in the text.
That is part of the reason why I think the whole Western/CJKV/CTL
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:31:16 +0200
Eike Rathke wrote:
> > >* Allow arbitrary lang tags to be used in a text anywhere
> > OpenDocument allows these - it is just a question of how much
> > LibreOffice supports this.
> It does.
> > I believe the UNO interface supports this,
> > but I won't be s
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:52:49 +0200
Eike Rathke wrote:
> > If I have some text with khb-CN as the language and
> > region and then try to set the language for a greater expanse of
> > text, khb-CN does not come up in the menu.
N.B. By 'language' and 'region', I mean language and region for comple
Hi Richard,
On Wednesday, 2015-06-24 08:32:42 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> It's been claimed that this is the tip of a big iceberg:
>
> "The ideal would be to allow the following capabilities:
>
> * Tag text according to its language tag rather than using an LCID,
> given even windows u
Hi Richard,
On Tuesday, 2015-06-23 13:14:03 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> > The language combo-box allows you to enter arbitrary language tags.
> > What happens if you just enter khb-CN in there.
>
> Using vanilla Version: 4.3.3.2, Build ID:
> 9bb7eadab57b6755b1265afa86e04bf45fbfc644 on Ubu
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:07:12 +
toki wrote:
> On 06/22/2015 07:30 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote:
>
> > How do I add a language to this menu so that fonts that can will
> > render text in the style appropriate to the language?
I've been getting a fair bit of information off list, though it's
On 06/22/2015 07:30 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> How do I add a language to this menu so that fonts that can will render text
> in the style appropriate to the language?
My recommendation is that you file an RFE for each language and locale
that you'd like to use in LibO.
Whilst one can fak
(Copy to list for reference - I accidentally replied to Caolán alone.)
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:59:04 +0100
Caolán McNamara wrote:
> The language combo-box allows you to enter arbitrary language tags.
> What happens if you just enter khb-CN in there.
Using vanilla Version: 4.3.3.2, Build ID:
9bb7
On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 20:30 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote:
> How do I add a language to this menu so that fonts that can will render
> text in the style appropriate to the language? I am reconciled to
> having to create a bespoke version of LibreOffice, though I'd rather
> not.
The language com
How do I add a language to this menu so that fonts that can will render
text in the style appropriate to the language? I am reconciled to
having to create a bespoke version of LibreOffice, though I'd rather
not.
Manually editing a document's XML files would be the last
resort - it seems to work!
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