As a new and inexperienced member of an established community, I try to keep my
mouth shut and avoid interfering. Occasionally I feel strongly enough on a
subject to speak out and I hope that the below does not upset too many people...
> - Original Message -
> From: Frans de Boer
> ...
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 07:05:14PM +, Richard Melville wrote:
> > Ken, I'm using vesafb on a web server with no Xorg, and I just use the
> > console. I realise that my kernel was quite old but as I like to check
> > every configuration option (often becaus
hat option, reconfigured, and now it
all works as expected.
Regarding vga=792, that still works for me. If I substitute video=1024x768
the command is ignored an I get a large, ugly font. I'm currently using
grub-2.0, so I can't understand what the problem is likely to be. Any
idea
- Original Message -
> From: Ken Moffat
...
> To clarify: consider the situation where you suspect you have a
> kernel bug. Say you are now on 3.12.0 and had previously used
> 3.11.5. As a first step, boot 3.11.5 [ assuming you kept it around,
> of course ] to see if things are differe
and I had a brief
flirtation with gentoo which I am sure also store kernel source below
/usr/src/linux?
Again, many thanks, Richard.
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> From: William Harrington
>To: Richard ; LFS Support List
>
...
>> # of expected passes92870
>> # of expected failures259
>> # of unsupported tests1096
...
># of expected passes 92152
># of expected failures
>
> From: Ken Moffat
...
>Are you using the 7.4 book or svn ? If you are using gcc-4.8.2
>then I have no data to offer.
...
I am (I hope!) using the plain, normal, generic, unadulterated LFS 7.4 - which
means that I just compiled gcc 4.8.1.
I will proceed under
Hello again,
I have finally completed the leviathan task of my first gcc compilation and
test.
I am encouraged to have only one unexpected failure outside libmudflap.
This leaves me with two questions.
1. How bad is that error? I have inferred that it is probably infrequent - but
it does no h
>>> I think I neglected to shut down the networking on the host system - so the
>>> posix tests did not fail. I did not realise that network isolation was a
>>> requirement. I do not have that machine with me here at work - so I will
>>> check later.
>>>
>>
>> That is interesting. And very pu
On Mon, 28/10/13, Ken Moffat wrote:
> >
> > I have inferred from the book that 'cputimer1' and 'run-conformtest' might
> > be 'acceptable' failures, but I was surprised that the test suite ended
> > mid-way.
> >
>
> Why do you think it ended mid-way ? Your output from the make
> check command
On Mon, 28/10/13, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> > I have inferred from the book that 'cputimer1' and 'run-conformtest'
> > might be 'acceptable' failures, but I was surprised that the test
> > suite ended mid-way.
>
> It didn't. It finished running.
Aha! I see. So I just misinterpreted the messages.
Hello experts,
I am attempting my first LFS build; which will (hopefully) be 7.4, built on a
host system of slackware-14.
All went well up until chapter 6. I am unsure as to whether or not the errors
in the glibc fall into the acceptable variety or not.
glibc appeared to build well enough. Hav
Excellent news :-) However, may I just point out that there's a broken
libungif link on the Emacs-24.3 page. Maybe it should point here:
http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Libungif
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> On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:57:14 -0800
> Richard Coffee wrote:
>
>> My setup is virtually identical, except POLLDEV was set to Module. Am
>> recompiling kernel now for it. Hope it makes a difference. Thanks.
>>
>
> You can cat each device in /dev/input/
> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:37:21 -0500
> From: Bruce Dubbs
> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Boot problem
> To: LFS Support List
> Message-ID: <5210dc21.3070...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Richard wrote:
>>
>
SCREEN sizes matter.
>
> #
> # Input device support
> #
> CONFIG_INPUT=y
> # CONFIG_INPUT_FF_MEMLESS is not set
> CONFIG_INPUT_POLLDEV=y
> # CONFIG_INPUT_SPARSEKMAP is not set
> # CONFIG_INPUT_MATRIXKMAP is not set
>
...stuff trimmed
>
> CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_TRACKPOI
fferences I've spotted. Manually creating the link didn't
fix the problem, so I'm guessing that it's a symptom and not the cause. I've
also looked through the /lib/udev directory files, and tried turning off psaux
in the kernel. :(
richard
__
re of this
particular problem? I assume it is a kernel bug of some
kind. I haven't been able to get any useful information
from the logs, everything just seems to stop at the
above point.
Thanks,
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ause there is no
mouse symlink in /dev as there is with older LFS installs I've done. Grepping
the config file for MOUSE showed the exact same settings as I've used in
previous kernels.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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I'm thinking about building a new LFS system based on the development. How
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(readlink /bin/sh) == dash ] && echo FIX ME!
or perhaps:
if [ $(readlink /bin/sh) == dash ]; then
echo FIX ME!
fi
just my two cents.
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> On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 14:53 +0000, Richard Melville wrote:
>
> > I think that was understood; when they said that it was "stupid" it
> > was surely meant that there could be some confusion in the use of
> > similar terms.
>
> Possibly, though if
low a 256 character font if that is what you need.
>
> ?en
>
Thanks for the help and the link Ken; I'll have a play when I have more
time. I'm still using "vga=792" on the grub kernel boot line to get the
right (for me) sized screen fonts. Is that still
>
> > Now it would be nice for it to work using UUIDs so the booting can
> > be independent of host system.
>
> You need to use an initrd of that. See BLFS.
>
>-- Bruce
>
>
Would't using GPT instead of MBR be a viable alternative?
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>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 01:00:38PM +, Richard Melville wrote:
>> When I use backspace in the terminal/console and then re-type I get white
>> blocking. I'm fairly sure that I installed the patches when I built the
>> keyboard package. Any advice? It's r
When I use backspace in the terminal/console and then re-type I get white
blocking. I'm fairly sure that I installed the patches when I built the
keyboard package. Any advice? It's really annoying.
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> Richard Melville wrote:
> > I have one Ethernet adapter (Intel 82574L Gigabit) but udev has found two
> > complete with MAC addresses. The phantom version is installed on eth0
> and
> > the real version is installed on eth1. I've searched the system for the
else experienced this behaviour? The only other case I can find is
somebody on a Raspberry Pi list who experienced the same phantom creation
with udev and his wireless adapter.
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gt; EOF
>
> cat > test "EOF"
> TEST=$PWD
> EOF
>
> Sincerely,
>
> William Harrington
>
>
Thanks for the explanation William; I had no idea that was the case.
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quot; always in quotes; I've found EOF without quotes to work just
fine.
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2 *without* python installed I received no such error:-
==
Testsuite summary for GNU Automake 1.12.2
==
# TOTAL: 2852
# PASS: 2648
# SKIP: 164
# XFAIL: 40
# FAIL: 0
# XPASS: 0
# ERROR: 0
==
Richard
>
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 07:01:02PM +0100, Richard Melville wrote:
> > I realise that I'm building the dev edition, but my host is Linux Mint
> > Cinnamon 64 bit and the host requirements appeared to fit better. Also it
> > looked as though the dev edition was
Richard Melville wrote:
>
> > Finally -- some recognition that there is a potential problem with this
> > build. I disagree that it "works okay for x86 and x86_64" because I
> > reported here that the MPC configure error appeared randomly on my x86_64
> >
as we do in chapter 6. I still believe that there
is some sort of race condition happening by building the three packages in
the tree at the same time, but I've been too busy of late to test for that.
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Richard Melville wrote:
> > I've noticed that this was recommended way back on LFS 3.3 but now seems
> to
> > have been dropped. As all the distros appear to have caught up with LFS
> by
> > having this symlink what are the current views here on creating it? I'
elow the error
> message if I remember right) and try to build it yourself in
>
> /mnt/lfs/sources/gcc-build/mpc/
>
> using the gcc command line from config.log. Somewhere in the process you
> should see something that gives you a clue!
>
> Tim
>
>
Thanks Tim, those t
ms to have
been inconclusive.
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wing the book new things are learned?
> >
> > Helping others is always good.
>
> Oh, I agree with you fully, don't get me wrong, but people should be
> starting at the start, not the end.
>
> --
> Jasmine Iwanek
>
>
> What is that supposed to mean? Really, if you have nothing useful to say
then don't say anything.
Thanks for your positive post Baho.
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should not be having to support people who
> didn't follow the book instructions (or as was pointed out by bruce)
> didn't look before they leaped, after all, if you're unable to find the
> time to do even one build by hand, what hope do you have to find th
>
> On 2012-09-05 10:43, Richard Melville wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Steve ( and Eleanor earlier). ?Picking up on
> > what Bruce said about the possibility of race conditions relating to
> > building GCC with MAKEFLAGS set to -j > 1, Im wondering if
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Richard Melville
> wrote:
> >> I extracted all of these packages from within the GCC-4.7.1 folder
>
>
> >
> > I'd still be interested to know why we build GMP, MPC, and MPFR inside
> GCC
> > except
kages. It can
> cause race conditions that sometimes cause a failure.
>
> I suppose we can put a warning about this in the gcc sections, but we'd
> need it in three places.
>
>-- Bruce
>
>
There's already a warning near the beginning of the book.
Richard
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ed the whole instruction set
and it still failed at the same point that you've found.
Bruce suggested wrapping the commands in a script so you can see what's
happening, and that seems like a good idea, however I had already built it
by then by doing nothing different -- just trying
# XFAIL: 40
# FAIL: 0
# XPASS: 0
# ERROR: 0
==
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>
Thanks for the really detailed replies Ken -- it's much appreciated.
I'm building this when I have the spare time; I'll see if I can run the
tests tonight and get back to you.
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> Richard Melville wrote:
> > Failed 2 tests out of 2202, 99.91% okay.
> > ../cpan/IO-Compress/t/105oneshot-zip-only.t
> > ../cpan/Time-Local/t/Local.t
> >
> > I'm guessing that this is not a problem. Any views appreciated.
>
> Tha
Failed 2 tests out of 2202, 99.91% okay.
../cpan/IO-Compress/t/105oneshot-zip-only.t
../cpan/Time-Local/t/Local.t
I'm guessing that this is not a problem. Any views appreciated.
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Bruce -- what was the thinking behind using SU from Shadow instead
of Coreutils?
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On 08/17/2012 02:04 PM, Richard Melville wrote:
> > Some help with this would be great -- I just can't understand it.
> >
> > I ran the tests as root which ran OK. I've added the temporary group
> > and changed permissions but when I run:-
> > su nobody -
Richard Melville wrote:
> > Some help with this would be great -- I just can't understand it.
> >
> > I ran the tests as root which ran OK. I've added the temporary group and
> > changed permissions but when I run:-
> >
> > su nobody -s /bin/bash -c
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:32:06AM +0100, Richard Melville wrote:
> >
> > I do have a question, however, regarding vulnerabilities in old packages.
> > Does anybody know of a good website that lists vulnerabilities as they
> are
> > found. That would enable
e: command not found.
Any ideas anyone?
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have to agree -- I'm still running a venerable LFS 6.1.1 build which is
quite capable of supporting, for example, the latest Erlang and Postgres
packages.
I do have a question, however, regarding vulnerabilities in old packages.
Does anybody know of a good website that lists vulnerabilities as th
Richard Melville wrote:
> >> Just went through this step in linux mint 32bit in vmware and found
> >>> no issues.
> >>>
> >>> That's because it's an intermittent bug. I've just had the same
> >>> problem using Linux Mint Cinn
sometimes it doesn't. If you look back through
> > the posts in the mailing list you will see that a number of people
> > have experienced this bug irrespective of host used.
> >
> > Richard
>
> Hello Richard,
>
> If the person does make again, does the syste
>
> Richard Melville wrote:
> > Can anybody tell me why the above happens? I'm using Chrome on the host
> to
> > follow the book. Chrome won't restart and I'm now using Firefox. I
> > noticed that the symlink was also removed from the host /dev d
lted. I thought that
the script would just remove the $LFS/dev symlink.
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hrough the posts in the mailing
list you will see that a number of people have experienced this bug
irrespective of host used.
Richard
Explain the exact commands used at the command line and
> any environment variables you may have changed.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> William Harrington
>
&g
-gnu
That can't be right can it? They seem to hold duplicated content.
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>
> Richard Melville wrote:
> > I realise that I'm building the dev edition, but my host is Linux Mint
> > Cinnamon 64 bit and the host requirements appeared to fit better. Also it
> > looked as though the dev edition was at a reasonably stable stage.
> >
e sanity checks were OK.
MPFR and GMP have compiled OK with the libraries installed in .libs. I've
even checked to make sure that the MPFR libraries were 64 bit, and now I've
run out of ideas. I'd be really grateful for any help. I've tried
rebuilding GCC four times now with
Mykal Fink wrote:-
>
> I replaced the battery and the behavior didn't change.
But at least, for a very small outlay, you can now rule out battery
problems, and you don't have to worry about losing time when the box is
unplugged.
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Sorry, I meant to say "no time problems whatsoever regarding the battery."
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I agree with everything that's been said, but why not just *buy the
battery*; then you'll have no time concerns whatsoever. In the UK they cost
from about £1 upwards, depending on the type. I really can't see what the
problem is.
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your system time accurate.
>
It's a very old motherboard; a dying cmos battery will affect the hardware
clock which in turn will affect the system clock. You could try replacing
the battery (usually a "coin cell"); they're not very expensive.
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ow enough about it.
Although I wasn't able to glean much information regarding the above
questions it was really good to meet Stormy Peters and to be able to discuss
the work of The Gnome Foundation with her.
Thanks again for your questions.
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Thanks to Simon, Alan and Jason for the feedback; I'll put the two questions
to Stormy.
Simon, I take your point but my only thoughts on the relationship between
Windows and Gnome was that they both have registries and they can both
become corrupted.
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n.
Recycle them and treat yourself to something new, small, quiet, and
relatively powerful.
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itable bulky AC/DC adapter
> taking up several wall sockets.
>
>
> Simon.
>
Mine (a very small slimline drive) is powered from the USB port.
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hing that is built on outdated and unreliable technology.
If I had my way I would round up all the floppy disks in the world and burn
them, thus doing everybody a favour. And while I was at it I would throw
all those clunky old fax machines onto the same fire.
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ng it a bit buggy) I thought that I'd give it a go when I'm
less busy.
For anybody interested you can find it here http://bit.ly/4vucpc
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> I kept building kernels, and /boot partition kept filling up, and
> eventually I switched to just using a /boot directory on the root /.
>
> I've found that LVM is excellent for managing partitions that need to be
resized.
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27;t boot into
that copy) then you can delete that copy and you still have the master.
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and some web surfing and email, so I
haven't done much with it. Maybe you could create another partition and
install LFS on that partition from a USB flash drive. Then you could adjust
grub accordingly -- just an idea. However, storage space may be a problem.
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Amir Khezrian a écrit :
> Hi
Hello,
> first of all, thank you for your helps. I did all according to the book
> but, during the compilation of "gcc" i encountered with some errors.
> these are the last lines that are shown during the compilation of gcc :
Did you read them ?
> /usr/bin/install
; /dev/sda6swap swap pri=1 0 > 0
Bruce, I've just noticed that you have /boot listed in your fstab shown above,
but this is not necessary as it is called from Grub.
IMHO it is better that /boot remains unmounted whilst the system
Ken Moffat wrote:-
> If /boot is a separate filesystem, you can use the version of grub
> installed by your host system.
I would always recommend a separate /boot partition whatever the build.
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Ken Moffat wrote:-
> If /boot is a separate filesystem, you can use the version of grub
> installed by your host system.
I would always recommend a separate /boot partition whatever the build.
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William Immendorf wrote:
> BUT, if stabilaty on recent systems is your goal, you should use 6.4.
William, it's no good just repeating the same thing like a mantra -- show us
the proof.
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nding umount commands in $LFS/
root/.bash_logout to automatically put your LFS environment into a
complete state whenever you enter the LFS partition and clear up after
you when come out again.
Regard
Richard Russell
On 23/03/09 01:17:45, Dan Tran wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am a first ti
ck.
I didn't mean for this to sound too critical. I believe that the
LFS/BLFS project is an incredible learning environment. It has
certainly taught me a great deal about Linux and I hope that it has a
long life ahead of it. I'd like to thank everybody involved in it.
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if you didn't create /proc/config.gz )
>
>
>
>
Yeah, sorry for the noise. Not sure what I was doing with grep -- my
only excuse is that it was Friday evening and I was tired.
Kernel is now re-configured and re-built and all is OK.
Thanks Lauri and Ken.
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be enabled in the kernel but I can find no reference to it in the
kernel .config.
I'd be really grateful for some help as I'm right at the final stage of
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I'm not sure if it is still current practice but it appears to be -- I
was building the very latest version.
Thanks to both of you for the help, but I'm still unclear as to whether
there is a workaround when the necessary headers aren't included with
the package.
Thanks
Richard
t the solution is here? Should we install the new
kernel headers into a separate sub-directory and change the source code
to point to the new sub-directory rather than to /usr/include/linux, or
would this just not work?
I'd appreciate your, or anybody else's, view on the subject.
Rich
re using to boot
LFS then your LFS entry on the second line should read root (hd0,1),
*not* root (hda0,3).
As far as I know grub only recognises the "hd" disk nomenclature, so
even if the kernel sees your disks as "sd" grub will still see them as
"hd", so the above is c
is some similar
> hardware and there isn't a problem either.
>
>
> So, why is grub hanging there (I rebooted after 10 minutes)? What might
> I do to solve the problem? What is grub waiting for?
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Andreas
>
>
Just a though
tes to 1024x768-24; note *vga=* in this instance, not
*video=*. I don't think that vesafb operates at a 32 bit colour depth.
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d be parameters
> to msgfmt, I think. However, apparently that program was not
> found by some configure process, and hence was replaced by
> the shell builtin ':' command, which does nothing but exit 0
> (see 'help :').
>
> That in itself should be noted.
r, then you do not need to
re-build and re-install GRUB because you already have a working version,
in which case you just need to add LFS to your existing menu.lst.
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e.g.
(hd0,0) ==hda1. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "when I use GRUB";
do you mean when you boot LFS?
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process to be fairly forgiving; even my
first attempt at producing a .config file was a success. The first
draft, if successful, can always be tweaked later by scrutinising dmesg.
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tion steps as if starting from scratch?
>
> Edward
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Why not just use the latest stable kernel? I'm using 2.6.24 with LFS
6.2 and it works well.
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> XFCE is no longer supported in BLFS (and you didn't even specify its
> version!).
> There is some activity on the XFCE mailing list, but it is mostly about the
> upcoming 4.6 release.
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Any idea why XFCE is no longer supported in BLFS?
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- Original Message
From: Chris Staub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LFS Support List
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 8:25:05 AM
Subject: Re: mounts
Richard Caldwell wrote:
> Hi,
>I'm building using liveCD6.3 and I'm currently on section '6.14 Sed-4.1.5
sysfs $LFS/sys
Do my mounts look OK? It appears to me that devpts should be mounted on
/mnt/lfs/dev/pts but instead its mounted on /dev/pts.
Do the other mounts look OK? /dev doesn't look quite right to me either but I'm
not sure?
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Richard
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e the command is still running?
Thanks
Richard
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es setup from 6.2 to 6.6 and they
seem OK? I'm very apprehensive about messing up my install as I've done this
before and couldn't start again for months
due to time constraints!
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, although
this was about eighteen months ago.
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