A couple minor grammar issues

2005-08-06 Thread Chris Staub
The installation of Vim mentions changing "the default locations of vimrc" - "locations" should just be "location." Also, in the installation of Shadow, the text describing the step of eliminating the groups program never really looked right to me... "Remove the installation of the groups pro

Re: [RFC] On LFS' Package Selection Policy

2005-08-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: 1) Are the utilities and/or interfaces the package provides mandated by any of the following standards? * Linux Standard Base (LSB-3.0) I'd rather not mention this (very strict) standard without reading it. It requires both other menti

Re: [RFC] On LFS' Package Selection Policy

2005-08-06 Thread M.Canales.es
El Sábado, 6 de Agosto de 2005 12:46, Matthew Burgess escribió: > Err, yeah. I should have been clearer on which bit of the LSB I was > referring to here. I was just looking at using table 15-1 - > http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-gener >ic/command.html#AEN21

Re: [RFC] On LFS' Package Selection Policy

2005-08-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
M.Canales.es wrote: On that table there is, among others, "crontab", "mailx" or "sendmail", that don't look very appropriate for a base development system. I realise that. My initial proposal wasn't saying "We must implement everything mandated by the FHS, LSB and POSIX standards". It was

Re: A couple minor grammar issues

2005-08-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
Chris Staub wrote: The installation of Vim mentions changing "the default locations of vimrc" - "locations" should just be "location." Also, in the installation of Shadow, the text describing the step of eliminating the groups program never really looked right to me... Thanks Chris. I've fi

Re: A couple minor grammar issues

2005-08-06 Thread Chris Staub
Matthew Burgess wrote: Chris Staub wrote: The installation of Vim mentions changing "the default locations of vimrc" - "locations" should just be "location." Also, in the installation of Shadow, the text describing the step of eliminating the groups program never really looked right to me...

Re: A couple minor grammar issues

2005-08-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
Chris Staub wrote: Thanks, but the original suggestion also had "disable" instead of "remove" for the shadow instructions, which I think is more accurate. So it did! Fixed now, thanks. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscri

Re: [RFC] On LFS' Package Selection Policy

2005-08-06 Thread Archaic
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 12:12:12PM +0100, Matthew Burgess wrote: > > Having said that, obviously if someone suggests adding Sendmail (or > some other MTA) to the book, it'd be thrown out on the basis of the > other criteria. Darn. There goes my next proposal... ;) -- Archaic Want control, educ

Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Noted in the most recent build of LFS (using the GCC4 branch, but this probably would affect trunk as well) is that the Libtool installation installs files in /usr/share/libtool/libltdl/ with 1000:1000 permissions instead of 0:0 (root:root). Can anyone check and see if this is the case on

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Archaic
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 09:56:17AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Can anyone check and see if this is the case on a recent build of > LFS to confirm this? If 6.1 is recent enough, then I can say that the perms are 0:0 here. -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your operating

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Archaic wrote these words on 08/06/05 10:02 CST: > If 6.1 is recent enough, then I can say that the perms are 0:0 here. We'll need to get a more recent build from somebody. Stable uses Libtool-1.5.14 and Development uses 1.5.18. I see the issue using 1.5.18 -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Ag Hatzim
Randy McMurchy([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 09:56:17AM -0500: > Hi all, > > Noted in the most recent build of LFS (using the GCC4 branch, but > this probably would affect trunk as well) is that the Libtool > installation installs files in /usr/share/libtool/libltdl/ with > 1000:1000 per

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ag Hatzim wrote these words on 08/06/05 10:11 CST: > Randy McMurchy([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 09:56:17AM -0500: >>Can anyone check and see if this is the case on a recent build of >>LFS to confirm this? > > Confirmed.Same permissions as yours Randy. Thanks, now just to decide whethe

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Thomas Pegg
On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 18:11 +0300, Ag Hatzim wrote: > Randy McMurchy([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 09:56:17AM -0500: > > > > Can anyone check and see if this is the case on a recent build of > > LFS to confirm this? > > Confirmed.Same permissions as yours Randy. > Can confirm this here

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Archaic
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 10:28:32AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Thanks, now just to decide whether to chown the files in the source > tree before 'make install', or just use the chown command originally > posted after 'make install'. I prefer chowning the source tree myself that way the files

RE: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread David Fix
> Can anyone check and see if this is the case on a recent build of > LFS to confirm this? Confirmed here, Randy, and I'm running SVN-20050730. :) Dave -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above informati

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, Noted in the most recent build of LFS (using the GCC4 branch, but this probably would affect trunk as well) is that the Libtool installation installs files in /usr/share/libtool/libltdl/ with 1000:1000 permissions instead of 0:0 (root:root). Thanks Randy. This wa

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 08/06/05 14:59 CST: > 1) Patch libtool using the upstream patch > 2) Do the `chown` on the installed files ourselves > 3) Do the `chown` on the source files ourselves > > I'd prefer to go with #1 as it prevents having to even discuss the > relative merits of

Re: Libtool installation nit

2005-08-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: Seriously, I like #2 or #3 simply because it is one less thing to have to download. Good point. I can see the text if you decide on #3. "Some of the files installed by the package have incorrect ownership". "Correct the ownership of the libltdl data files:" should

Pushing UTF-8 support into LFS

2005-08-06 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Hello, a sample LFS-like system that supports UTF-8 is available on a live CD. So, it may be a good idea to create an experimental branch of the LFS book that incorporates the same changes. LFS built according to that branch should work in both UTF-8 and traitional locales. So, patches that m

Re: Pushing UTF-8 support into LFS

2005-08-06 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
I wrote: BUGS ON THE CD: see http://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/viewcvs.cgi/x86/branches/utf8/BUGS?rev=549&root=livecd&view=markup -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information pa

Shadow-4.0.11.1

2005-08-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I would like to request that trunk be updated to the latest release of the Shadow package (4.0.11.1). There is an additional configure switch that needs to be added to enable shadowed groups, as you all are already aware. This would make it a bit simpler on the BLFS side, as a patch for P