Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style (minor update)

2008-04-28 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Cc: to BLFS-Dev > > > > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 03/31/08 10:44 CST: > >> Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >>> The implication of going to DESTDIR for LFS would imply doing the s

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style (minor update)

2008-04-27 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Cc: to BLFS-Dev > > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 03/31/08 10:44 CST: >> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> The implication of going to DESTDIR for LFS would imply doing the same >>> for BLFS. Some of the BLFS packages are not DESTDIR friendly. I can't >>> remember whi

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style (minor update)

2008-04-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
Cc: LFS-Dev Randy McMurchy wrote these words (many snipped) on 04/27/08 18:33 CST: > I just installed a Perl Module and not only was it native DESTDIR > friendly and multilib friendly, it installed files depending on the > native arch of the machine. > > Simply using the USE_ARCH var passed to t

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style (minor update)

2008-04-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
Cc: to BLFS-Dev Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 03/31/08 10:44 CST: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >> The implication of going to DESTDIR for LFS would imply doing the same >> for BLFS. Some of the BLFS packages are not DESTDIR friendly. I can't >> remember which ones off the top of my hea

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-04-01 Thread Bryan Kadzban
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Sukucorp Sukucorp wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Bryan Kadzban > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But any kind of DESTDIR type setup would require it, if the >> package's "make install" is run as a non-root user. > > fakeroot is not an abs

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Bryan Kadzban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But any kind of DESTDIR type > setup would require it, if the package's "make install" is run as a > non-root user. fakeroot is not an absolute requirement for install-root style PM. I use the following wrappers to avoi

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On undefined, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But what is being described here is much more than just a DESTDIR > installation method. To me, this sounds like pure PM, and probably > more than LFS should take on. > It is not more than the DESTDIR method. If packages are installed

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Bryan Kadzban
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 taipan wrote: > It still has me wondering if this proposed branch would require or > benefit from the inclusion of the 'fakeroot' package, as used by > diy-linux? I've never built either, & am uncertain of it's precise > function - so this is p

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Sukucorp Sukucorp wrote these words on 03/31/08 16:40 CST: > On undefined, Dave Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I agree w/ pretty much everything said below and would also like to >> see a DESTDIR-branch. I'd add the uninstall commands should also be >> broken out into pre- and post- stage

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On undefined, Dave Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree w/ pretty much everything said below and would also like to > see a DESTDIR-branch. I'd add the uninstall commands should also be > broken out into pre- and post- stages. An example would be calling > pwunconv and grpunconv if you

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Dave Wheeler
I agree w/ pretty much everything said below and would also like to see a DESTDIR-branch. I'd add the uninstall commands should also be broken out into pre- and post- stages. An example would be calling pwunconv and grpunconv if you uninstall shadow - they need to be executed before removing the

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Alan Lord
Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Thoughts from others? > And there's me thinking you were just playing with your chopper... That sounds great - I'd be really interested in seeing some of the meat. It seemed that the great enthusiasm we had here a few weeks ago for a LFS-ng had died almost as fast a

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Sukucorp Sukucorp
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've almost completed an LFS Development build using DESTDIR (or whatever > else if the package doesn't support DESTDIR) style installation. Though > I might hit some bumps in the last few remaining packages, I'm writ

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/31/08 10:19 CST: > Looks interesting. Where do you put your DESTDIR? Is it a part of the > chroot partition? You said you use scripts. Can you post a typical script? I suppose I should qualify "scripts". Actually, there is only one main script I use to copy

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:19:20AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > The implication of going to DESTDIR for LFS would imply doing the same > for BLFS. Some of the BLFS packages are not DESTDIR friendly. I can't > remember which ones off the top of my head, but I do recall some that > ignore DEST

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Robert Daniels
On Monday 31 March 2008 09:53:00 Randy McMurchy wrote: > I've almost completed an LFS Development build using DESTDIR (or > whatever else if the package doesn't support DESTDIR) style > installation. Though I might hit some bumps in the last few remaining > packages, I'm writing now to see if there

RE: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Kirby Bohling
> > I'm not trying to push this on anyone, I'm only saying that I can > help if the community sees this as a direction we may go towards one > day. Many others including Dan, Tushar, et. al. may be willing to > assist or contribute as well. > > Thoughts from others? > If at all possible whil

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread taipan
taipan wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> The implication of going to DESTDIR for LFS would imply doing the same >> for BLFS. Some of the BLFS packages are not DESTDIR friendly. I can't >> remember which ones off the top of my head, but I do recall some that >> ignore DESTDIR, at least partially.

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, everything above is not true. First, I meant the creation > of DESTDIR/usr/share, not DESTDIR/share and more importantly, the > creation of the final /usr/share/info/dir file is done in place. > This file (

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/31/08 10:19 CST: > Looks interesting. Where do you put your DESTDIR? Is it a part of the > chroot partition? I've been putting the DESTDIR directory as a subdirectory of the root of the build tree. I only did that so when I remove the build tree after insta

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread taipan
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > The implication of going to DESTDIR for LFS would imply doing the same > for BLFS. Some of the BLFS packages are not DESTDIR friendly. I can't > remember which ones off the top of my head, but I do recall some that > ignore DESTDIR, at least partially. > >-- Bruce Op

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: Thoughts from others? Looks interesting. Where do you put your DESTDIR? Is it a part of the chroot partition? It can't be outside this partition. With RPM, this is typically /var/tmp/pkgname-root/ , and with dpkg, this is always the `pwd`/debian/

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread taipan
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Hi all, > > I've almost completed an LFS Development build using DESTDIR (or whatever > else if the package doesn't support DESTDIR) style installation. Though > I might hit some bumps in the last few remaining packages, I'm writing > now to see if there is any interest in

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Thoughts from others? Looks interesting. Where do you put your DESTDIR? Is it a part of the chroot partition? You said you use scripts. Can you post a typical script? The implication of going to DESTDIR for LFS would imply doing the same for BLFS. Some of the BLFS p

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: > I also track every file that may conflict or overwrite with an existing > file on the system. This is not intended to be a package manager, > however, it would be trivial to create one from it (I do). > > Much of this is done via scripts (code snippets) that can be reused >

Re: LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 03/31/08 09:53 CST: > My scripts have the complete requirements, i.e., the proper commands > to install into DESTDIR, the modified after-installation commands to > do them all in DESTDIR (symlinks, moving libs to /lib or /usr/lib, > etc.), proper placement of ma

LFS - DESTDIR Style

2008-03-31 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I've almost completed an LFS Development build using DESTDIR (or whatever else if the package doesn't support DESTDIR) style installation. Though I might hit some bumps in the last few remaining packages, I'm writing now to see if there is any interest in creating an LFS branch for this ty