Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 08:29:51AM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > On 10/04/2012 08:15 AM, Matthew Burgess wrote: > > On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:09:50 -0400, Baho Utot > > wrote: > > > >> The file system is ext3 the same as on each box. Rsync is not an option > >> as only the desktop machine has it at t

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-04 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/04/2012 08:15 AM, Matthew Burgess wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:09:50 -0400, Baho Utot > wrote: > >> The file system is ext3 the same as on each box. Rsync is not an option >> as only the desktop machine has it at this time. >> cp -av doesn't work either, the copy never happens but the

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-04 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:09:50 -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > The file system is ext3 the same as on each box. Rsync is not an option > as only the desktop machine has it at this time. > cp -av doesn't work either, the copy never happens but the result in the > term shows every thing copied and worke

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-04 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/03/2012 09:23 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 07:52:14PM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: >> Actually it goes much farther for me. It isn't just this package or >> that package but a general direction of linux seems to going down hill ( >> in my opinion) faster that a snowball headed

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 07:52:14PM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > > Actually it goes much farther for me. It isn't just this package or > that package but a general direction of linux seems to going down hill ( > in my opinion) faster that a snowball headed for hell. Everyone seems to > want someth

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-03 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/03/2012 12:18 PM, Henrik /KaarPoSoft wrote: [putolin] > I am sorry to see this discussion turning into - If AAA succeed in > moving linux to BBB I am moving to *BSD - XXX is a solution trying > desperately to find a problem - The whole thing reminds me of a > patient with cancer - In my

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-03 Thread Henrik /KaarPoSoft
On 10/02/12 18:39, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Baho Utot wrote: > >> If Lennart and redhat succeed in moving linux to systemd I am moving to >> *BSD. I have talked to many BSD developers ( there was a linux fest on >> saturday here) and they plan on sticking to a "scripts" base init >> system. I am curr

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-03 Thread Richard Melville
> Baho Utot wrote: > It goes beyond kernel modules, systemd will respawn daemons that have > stopped/failed. Opps slap me silly they are not daemons they are > services now. What's wrong with that? It reminds me of Dan Bernstein's daemontools where daemons are supervised and restarted when the

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-02 Thread William Harrington
On Oct 2, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Baho Utot wrote: Lucky you. Until I get a LFS/BLFS desktop running I am stuck with cgroups Actually, the direction isn't with linux, it's with something other than linux. You can run the linux kernel with cgroups, you can run it without anything. Do not gro

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-02 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/02/2012 06:35 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Baho Utot wrote: > >> I am just getting aggravated with the direction of linux with the >> cgroups etc. > # CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set Lucky you. Until I get a LFS/BLFS desktop running I am stuck with cgroups > >> I'll be glad when I get LFS/BLFS built

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Baho Utot wrote: > I am just getting aggravated with the direction of linux with the > cgroups etc. # CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set > I'll be glad when I get LFS/BLFS built to KDE so I can ditch distros. Try xfce. The build is faster and it seems to run cleanly without a lot of unwanted bells and

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-02 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/02/2012 12:39 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Baho Utot wrote: > >> If Lennart and redhat succeed in moving linux to systemd I am moving to >> *BSD. I have talked to many BSD developers ( there was a linux fest on >> saturday here) and they plan on sticking to a "scripts" base init >> system. I am

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 11:23:12AM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > > Ugh, > > If Lennart and redhat succeed in moving linux to systemd I am moving to > *BSD. I have talked to many BSD developers ( there was a linux fest on > saturday here) and they plan on sticking to a "scripts" base init > system

Re: [lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Baho Utot wrote: > If Lennart and redhat succeed in moving linux to systemd I am moving to > *BSD. I have talked to many BSD developers ( there was a linux fest on > saturday here) and they plan on sticking to a "scripts" base init > system. I am currently looking at their udev "replacement/work

[lfs-dev] OT: Re: How to install Systemd-193 on LFS

2012-10-02 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/02/2012 10:14 AM, Chris W. wrote: > Hello, > > I wanted to better understand the inner workings of systemd. Just having > finished a LFS install on a test server, I thought LFS 7.2 might be a > good basis for this. My goal was to eventually replace SysVinit > completely with systemd. I fully