On 10/02/2012 06:35 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Baho Utot wrote:
>
>> I am just getting aggravated with the direction of linux with the
>> cgroups etc.
> # CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set

Lucky you.  Until I get a LFS/BLFS desktop running I am stuck with cgroups

>
>> I'll be glad when I get LFS/BLFS built to KDE so I can ditch distros.
> Try xfce.  The build is faster and it seems to run cleanly without a lot
> of unwanted bells and whistles.

I ran it before, it's just the setting up that involved.


>> It goes beyond kernel modules, systemd will respawn daemons that have
>> stopped/failed.  Opps slap me silly they are not daemons they are
>> services now.  It will only start a daemon/process/service if it is
>> needed by some package on demand, so much for you if you would like it
>> started at boot.
> xinetd resurrected.  That stuff is needed if you want to trigger 100
> processes for the ignorant user and don't want them all, but the big
> distro wants to be able to offer them.

Yes I use xinetd to start leafnode on a server

>> The log file is binary and not just a text file so if
>> something barfs you need to boot to something that has the systemd utils
>> on the to read the log file to what happened.
> I agree that that is, shall we say, short sighted.  Of course there are
> a few files hanging around for a long time that do the same thing.  For
> example wtmp, btmp.

Yes but you really don't need to look at them most of the time

>
>> Also on the horizon is software packages are starting to change there
>> startup away from sysvinit scripts or scripts in general.  You can see
>> this with Arch linux.
> That's why we have LFS.

That's why I building it ;)

My way with a package manager ;)

>
>> I don't really care about boot up or shut down  time... I care about the
>> speed/ease of use while I am USING the computer.
> The boot time is just one excuse being used to justify systemd.  I agree
> with your observations.
>
>> Ah feel better now ;)
> I'm glad.
>
>     -- Bruce
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