Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Robert Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 15:53:12 Dan Nicholson wrote: > > This isn't a proper channel for an LSB discussion, but the entire > I would think the LSB Meeting would be the appropriate forum, and Bruce > did ask for inpu

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Robert Daniels
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 15:53:12 Dan Nicholson wrote: > This isn't a proper channel for an LSB discussion, but the entire I would think the LSB Meeting would be the appropriate forum, and Bruce did ask for input on topics to bring up. (and I don't mean this in the whiny, argumentative way it l

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote: > In the context of *LFS, I don't think it really makes any sense to > pursue the LSB. Yes it does make sense. It makes us a part of the larger Linux community. It enables a user to add a proprietary package if desired. I know many LFSers may not want to use proprietary s

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Robert Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 13:52:56 J. Greenlees wrote: > > > > > > Anything that should be adopted by all distros must remain > > non-controversial to truly be acceptable by all, the more specific > > the LSB gets,

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:52 AM, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With the LSB: > Why would a BASE standrd not stop at the absolute minimum needed for a > functioning system? The addition of package management [ for example ] > to the LSB has made in no longer a BASE standard. If ex

Vulnerability fixed in bzip2 1.0.5

2008-03-19 Thread Petr Ovtchenkov
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Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Robert Daniels
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 13:52:56 J. Greenlees wrote: > > Anything that should be adopted by all distros must remain > non-controversial to truly be acceptable by all, the more specific > the LSB gets, the less respect many people will have for it. Specific > in software over the true base syste

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Zachary Kotlarek wrote: > > > Maybe I'm missing something, but the LSB Core specification is pretty > sparse: > http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/book1.html and that is where it should stop to be the base they intend. everything else makes it a DIS

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Zachary Kotlarek
On Mar 19, 2008, at 1:52 PM, J. Greenlees wrote: With the LSB: Why would a BASE standrd not stop at the absolute minimum needed for a functioning system? The addition of package management [ for example ] to the LSB has made in no longer a BASE standard. If extras are going to be included, th

Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I have been invited to attend the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit > taking place at the University of Texas Supercomputing Center in Austin, > TX from April 8 to 10, 2008. > > I applied using my LFS background and feel I will be representing the > community there. The a

Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

2008-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I have been invited to attend the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit taking place at the University of Texas Supercomputing Center in Austin, TX from April 8 to 10, 2008. I applied using my LFS background and feel I will be representing the community there. The agenda is at: https://www.linux

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2008/3/19, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What distros use the new version of e2fsprogs? What boot loader do > those distro's use? Debian Lenny. It offers a choice among a patched version of Grub Legacy, LILO, and GRUB2. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listin

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Bryan Kadzban
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:20:23AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > My position is that we should stay with grup 0.97 and the compatible > version of e2fsprogs until upstream gets the problems worked out. That works great for booting LFS, but an LFS-installed grub won't be able to boot the host's kerne

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > 2008/3/19, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> My position is that we should stay with grup 0.97 and the compatible >> version of e2fsprogs until upstream gets the problems worked out. > > This doesn't work: GRUB has to be compatible not only with the LFS > versio

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Gilles Espinasse
Selon Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My position is that we should stay with grup 0.97 and the compatible > version of e2fsprogs until upstream gets the problems worked out. Of > course, not using the most recent packages will require a note in the > book explaining the issue. > Why prefer to

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2008/3/19, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My position is that we should stay with grup 0.97 and the compatible > version of e2fsprogs until upstream gets the problems worked out. This doesn't work: GRUB has to be compatible not only with the LFS version of e2fsprogs, but also with the hosts's

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:46:31AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >> Did anyone investigate the boot loader options further? What should be done >> for >> LFS-7.0? > > Based on what I've read, I vote for switching to LILO as the default. > This has the advantage of

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2008/3/19, Matthew Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Does LILO still require NASM? No, but it requires bin86. -- Alexander E. Patrakov (writing from FreeBSD 7.0 amd64) -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above infor

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:07:01 -0600, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:46:31AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >> Did anyone investigate the boot loader options further? What should be > done for >> LFS-7.0? > > Based on what I've read, I vote for switchin

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:46:31AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Did anyone investigate the boot loader options further? What should be done > for > LFS-7.0? Based on what I've read, I vote for switching to LILO as the default. This has the advantage of making things easier for bringing

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread J. Greenlees
J. Greenlees wrote: > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >> 2008/3/19, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> http://gag.sourceforge.net/ >> Requires Borland Turbo Assembler (available for MS-DOS only) in order >> to be recompiled. LFS cannot assume that this proprietary OS is >> installed. >> > hmm, I w

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > 2008/3/19, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> http://gag.sourceforge.net/ > > Requires Borland Turbo Assembler (available for MS-DOS only) in order > to be recompiled. LFS cannot assume that this proprietary OS is > installed. > hmm, I wonder if my borland Kylix3

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2008/3/19, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://gag.sourceforge.net/ Requires Borland Turbo Assembler (available for MS-DOS only) in order to be recompiled. LFS cannot assume that this proprietary OS is installed. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/l

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
2008/3/19, J. Greenlees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > GAG Not tested yet, will do now. > http://gujin.sourceforge.net/ Tested seveal months ago, had a conversation with the author about the QEMU bug (unfortunately, the proposed fix broke something in SUSE) and the bogus LANG=en argument being appende

Re: Choosing a boot loader for LFS 7.0

2008-03-19 Thread J. Greenlees
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Hello, > > as explained in http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2161 (a blocker), > due to recent changes in e2fsprogs, Grub-0.97 no longer works. Grub, Grub2, Lilo have been mentioned. A quick google search brings as result 3: http://gag.sourceforge.net/