Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Ryan Oliver wrote: I must admit I never really ever bothered doing a time comparison between the methods (the build takes as long as it takes). Would be interesting to get some figures... If we can get jhalfs set up to parse CLFS x86 -> x86, I can time the builds here. -- JH -- http://linux

Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Ryan Oliver wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 00:24 -0500, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Greg Schafer wrote: Hm, this means you effectively end up building GCC 7 times, 3 times in GCC-Pass1, 1 time in GCC-Pass2 and 3 times Ch6 GCC. It also means you end This just made me think of something else, a mer

Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Ryan Oliver
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 00:24 -0500, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Greg Schafer wrote: > > > Hm, this means you effectively end up building GCC 7 times, 3 times in > > GCC-Pass1, 1 time in GCC-Pass2 and 3 times Ch6 GCC. It also means you end > > This just made me think of something else, a mere side

Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Ryan Oliver
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 15:41 +1100, Greg Schafer wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > > In talking with Ryan Oliver, there seems to be one final thing that we > > can do to our current build which will help stabilize it completely: add > > 'make bootstrap' to the gcc build of chapter 6. > > H

Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: Hm, this means you effectively end up building GCC 7 times, 3 times in GCC-Pass1, 1 time in GCC-Pass2 and 3 times Ch6 GCC. It also means you end This just made me think of something else, a mere side point... If CLFS adopted this technique as well (bootstrapping the fi

Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: In summary, I don't agree. The LFS build is already slow as molasses and now you want to make it even slower. No offence to Ryan's very good technical skills, but already on numerous occasions his sledgehammer techniques have been proven without a doubt to be genuine overkill

Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Greg Schafer
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > In talking with Ryan Oliver, there seems to be one final thing that we > can do to our current build which will help stabilize it completely: add > 'make bootstrap' to the gcc build of chapter 6. Hm, this means you effectively end up building GCC 7 times, 3 times in

Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Ryan Oliver
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 18:43 -0700, Archaic wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 07:26:15PM -0500, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > > > Comments? > > My comment is let's just build it right instead of relying on a make > target that builds gcc 3 times. If the wrong includes and libs are being > used, why ca

Re: Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Archaic
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 07:26:15PM -0500, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > Comments? My comment is let's just build it right instead of relying on a make target that builds gcc 3 times. If the wrong includes and libs are being used, why can't we just make it look in the right places? In fact, I thought

Re: NSS again (this time a real issue)

2006-02-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Archaic wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 05:24:26PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: I like #3, as it works, I can't see any harm in it, and if you install Mozilla, the link is wiped out. Sounds like the easiest method proffered so far. Yay, proffered! That word always makes me laugh. Not sure why

Bootstrapping GCC

2006-02-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello All, In talking with Ryan Oliver, there seems to be one final thing that we can do to our current build which will help stabilize it completely: add 'make bootstrap' to the gcc build of chapter 6. The benefits of this is that, after it builds its stage 1 xgcc, even if there are inconsi

Use of words in Udev_update

2006-02-06 Thread Richard A Downing
The excellent page 7.4 on "Device and Module Handling on an LFS System" has a minor wording difficulty for me. In 7.4.4 the sentence "A kernel driver may not export its data to sysfs." means that a kernel driver is not allowed, by some unspecified rules, to export its data to sysfs. What I think

Re: bash-3.1 and --without-bash-malloc

2006-02-06 Thread Jim Gifford
Matthew Burgess wrote: Hi folks, When bash-3.1 went into the book did anyone test whether or not '--without-bash-malloc' still causes the segfaults that the book claims is the reason we use the switch? If not, I'd prefer we drop the switch, as the configure script leads me to think that the

bash-3.1 and --without-bash-malloc

2006-02-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
Hi folks, When bash-3.1 went into the book did anyone test whether or not '--without-bash-malloc' still causes the segfaults that the book claims is the reason we use the switch? If not, I'd prefer we drop the switch, as the configure script leads me to think that the author believes bash sh

Re: Building 'clean' production system

2006-02-06 Thread Archaic
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 01:37:21AM +0500, Dimitry Naldayev wrote: > > >>I am looking for a way to build a clean production system. ie system > >>without development parts. Dimitry, I maintain several LFS-based production systems and here is what I do: 1) Build a full LFS on another box of the sa

Re: Building 'clean' production system

2006-02-06 Thread Dimitry Naldayev
"Alexander E. Patrakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dimitry Naldayev wrote: > >>I am looking for a way to build a clean production system. ie system >>without development parts. >> > You have two approaches. > > A) [preferred] Use Debian Sarge or maybe Etch. Rationale: > > 1) Its minimal install

Re: grub over softvare raid

2006-02-06 Thread Matthew Burgess
Dimitry Naldayev wrote: How I can install grub loader over /dev/md0 software raid mirror ? Please ask this on either lfs-support or bug-grub@gnu.org as it is off-topic for this mailing list. Regards, Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscr

Re: Tickets that track upstream releases

2006-02-06 Thread Archaic
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 12:50:30PM -0500, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Matthew Burgess wrote: > >Hi folks, > > > >Traditionally, when a new release of an upstream package was made, it > >was reported via reopening an existing bug in bugzilla and changing its > >title to reflect the new version number

grub over softvare raid

2006-02-06 Thread Dimitry Naldayev
With lilo it was posible to say boot=/dev/md0 root=/dev/md0 in /etc/lilo.conf and lilo will corectly install boot loader over software raid. (you will need mbr for every disk in raid in this case, but this is not problem) How I can install grub loader over /dev/md0 software raid mirror ? (the lo