KRnet> Lipo Battery/Lithium wives tales

2024-06-14 Thread Oscar Zuniga via KRnet
As a professional fire protection engineer (but not involved in end-user product development whatsoever), I can tell you that protection of stored and in-use lithium-ion and similar types of batteries is currently a very hot topic (pun intended). The phenomenon of thermal runaway poses new and

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2024-06-14 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
On 6/14/2024 8:19 AM, Adam Deem via KRnet wrote: There is a YouTube channel run by a guy named Will Prowse who does some great testing on batteries including testing them and tearing them apart to see what actual BMS the manufacturer is using. +

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-14 Thread Adam Deem via KRnet
In a deep cycle application such as providing backup power to systems after a charging system failure, A good LiFePO4 battery will provide much longer service at a steady voltage than any lead-acid chemistry and at about of the 50% weight per AH and for about quadruple the discharge cycles. There i

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery/Lithium wives tales

2024-06-14 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
On 6/13/2024 10:58 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote: I once heard or read that it was lithium that they added to the atomic bomb in WWII to increase the yield. As atomic weapons were not a settled science at that point they added too much on one test and they nearly wiped out a few observers. ++

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-14 Thread Matt Naiva via KRnet
Jeff thank you this has long been my position. The steady state delivery after a dynamo goes down also biases me to SLA... https://youtu.be/FPBaAil4dNg?feature=shared On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 4:53 PM Jeff York via KRnet wrote: > I spent years as an engineer in Industrial Lithium Ion technology. Mo

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery/Lithium wives tales

2024-06-13 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
> ++ > > There are some changes in the battery technology chemistry they claim is > safer, lithium iron phosphate (?) for one but I'm not a chemist or an > engineer.  I once heard or rea

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-13 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
On 6/13/2024 4:53 PM, Jeff York via KRnet wrote: the myth that there is so much new tech in Lithium Ion. Bunk...it's the same as it was 40 years ago. The changes are in the BMS systems. +++

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2024-06-13 Thread Jeff York via KRnet
I spent years as an engineer in Industrial Lithium Ion technology. Mostly BMS like Lithium system charging design and such. I actually even own an EV and its really cool but its just not prime time and I never see it go there. As loud as I can type it, I would never ever fly using a LIthium Ion ba

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2024-06-13 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
Sorry about the "3 posts".  They appeared to not be going through and I kept re sending.  It was like the duck with the hammer and the caption says "hit any key to continue". Larry Flesner -- KRnet mailing list KRnet@list.krnet.org https://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-13 Thread shafferj455js
By the way, Mark, I have the newer Great Plains 35 amp alternator. Not that I needed it, but I dropped my magnet ring the last time I had the engine apart, and cracked a magnet. The original 20 amp magnet rings are no longer available. Hi Mark. I am using an Odyssey Battery, in my KR. A battery t

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-13 Thread Bill Jacobs via KRnet
uts itself off, is not for me or my KR, electronic ignition or not   .John Shaffer 455JS - From: "mark jones via KRnet" To: "KRnet" Cc: "mark jones" Sent: Wednesday June 12 2024 9:14:12AM Subject: KRnet> Lipo Battery Yester

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-13 Thread Mark Jones via KRnet
battery that shuts itself off, is not for me or my KR, electronic ignition or not   .John Shaffer 455JS-From: "mark jones via KRnet" To: "KRnet"Cc: "mark jones"Sent: Wednesday June 12 2024 9:14:12AMSubject: KRnet> Lipo Bat

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-13 Thread shafferj455js
t: Wednesday June 12 2024 9:14:12AM Subject: KRnet> Lipo Battery Yesterday I was doing a taxi test and had the following happen more than once. This scares me enough that I am now very hesitant to use a Lipo with BMS. After about five minutes of taxi, my engine shut off as if the ignition sw

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-12 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
On 6/12/2024 8:36 AM, Larry Flesner via KRnet wrote: I'm by no means an expert but does your "dynamo / alternator/ whatever" need to see battery voltage to have an output?  If so and the battery shuts off, poof !! +

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-12 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
On 6/12/2024 8:13 AM, mark jones via KRnet wrote: Only to again shut down after a few minutes of running. Why is this happening? Is it due to the Dynamo? Why wouldn't my engine keep running just off the Dynamo. ++

Re: KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-12 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
-Jeff Scott Arkansas Ozarks     Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 8:13 AM From: "mark jones via KRnet" To: "KRnet" Cc: "mark jones" Subject: KRnet> Lipo Battery Yesterday I was doing a taxi test and had the following happen more than once. This scares me enoug

KRnet> Lipo Battery

2024-06-12 Thread mark jones via KRnet
Yesterday I was doing a taxi test and had the following happen more than once. This scares me enough that I am now very hesitant to use a Lipo with BMS. After about five minutes of taxi, my engine shut off as if the ignition switch had been shut off. There was absolutely no power at the ignition sw