KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread Greg Martin
Does anyone know if the wing tip (vertical winglets) add anything to the rate of climb or anything else in the performance of a small plane like the KR2? Greg S. Martin

KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
> Does anyone know if the wing tip (vertical winglets) add anything to the > rate of climb or anything else in the performance of a small plane like the > KR2? I can't point to a specific reference for this "opinion", but I remember reading that they do help at speeds over 400 mph, so for our plan

KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread John and Janet Martindale
> I can't point to a specific reference for this "opinion", but I remember > reading that they do help at speeds over 400 mph.. Aye Mark, are you in the mood for an aerodynamic debate? :-) I thought winglets recovered waste energy derived from induced drag, that is, the wing tip vortices. Is

KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
John Martindale wrote: > Aye Mark, are you in the mood for an aerodynamic debate? :-) Nope, not at all. I don't know diddly about aerodynamics, so it would be a lopsided debate. I just threw out the only tidbit I remember about winglets. I've seen various formulas for making them, and they hav

KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
> > I thought winglets recovered waste energy derived from induced drag, that > is, the wing tip vortices. Is not induced drag greatest at large angles of > attack viz. usually at low speeds? Obviously, on balance, the recovered > energy over all flight attitudes is worth the manufacturers while. >

KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
> Improvement in aileron control at low speeds was the most significant > improvement. Hmmm. I wasn't aware that KRs had a problem with aileron control at low speeds... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
> > Improvement in aileron control at low speeds was the most significant > > improvement. > > Hmmm. I wasn't aware that KRs had a problem with aileron control at low > speeds... > As a relatively low hour power pilot, who is going to operate from short strips, anything that improves handling and

KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread Serge F. Vidal
Tunis, Tunisia -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:09 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Re: vertical winglets John Martindale wrote: > Aye Mark, are you in the mood for

KR>Re: vertical winglets

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Most of what I find on the web regarding winglets has to do with sailplanes, which are at the slow end of the speed spectrum. KRs operate at considerably higher speeds, so I'd wonder if there's not a compromise somewhere without actual testing on a KR. I might be talked into testing that later o