KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread patrusso
D Fuselage uncovered. Pat - Original Message - From: "Dennis Mingear" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: KR> steel tube fuselages > Was that covered or uncovered Pat? > > Denny ... > > --- patrusso wrote: >

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Don Chisholm
Yes patrusso wrote:D Fuselage uncovered. Pat - Original Message - From: "Dennis Mingear" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: KR> steel tube fuselages > Was that covered or uncovered Pat? > > Denny ... > > --- p

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread rhartwi...@juno.com
Don, It might be better to install "butterfly" blocks between the spar caps at the attach point with the steel fuselage (similar to the landing gear attach blocks seen on Lynn Hyder's KR2-- http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/lhyder/)-- one 1/2 " bolt through the block and an attach fitting welded a

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
If you have a Sonerai in your neighborhood you might look at how the wings are pinned to the fuselage in that example, tail components could be attached using the same techniques. Basically, the wing center section is pinned to the fuse through the reinforced center of the shearweb with bolts via

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Don Chisholm
that's an idea for thought. I'm getting ready to start machining parts Don Reid suggests that the waf's almost as they are, are probably sufficient my view is that how the spar sets are attached to the stock fuselage it shouldn't bve too hard to come up with something at least that structurally so

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Don Chisholm
just to get a dicussion going. I have a hypothetical question to the net and I'm sure it's been either done or thought about. If one decided to mate a KR wing set to a truss type steel tube fuselage how would one go about doing it? . My thoughts are to go with a Sonerai 2 style set up as it is

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
Interesting idea, I'll let others comment on the more technical aspects of your post, but I would be interested in the weight difference between the wood and steel fuse. Denny ... --- Don Chisholm wrote: > just to get a dicussion going. I have a hypothetical > question to the net and I'm sure

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Don Chisholm
just to give an idea the Sonerai 2 S uses About an equal amount of 3/4 inch 5/8 inch .035 steel tube with some other sizes and calls for about 150 feet of tubing. 5/8 tubing is.2205 lbs. per foot and 3/4 tubingis.2673 lbs per foot if you do the math it weighs approx 36 lbs. I have a Smythe Sidew

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
36 pounds, without covering or paint. Sounds like it might be twice as heavy as a well finished wood fuse. Am I close? Denny ... --- Don Chisholm wrote: > just to give an idea the Sonerai 2 S uses About an > equal amount of 3/4 inch > 5/8 inch .035 steel tube with GOP = Greed-Oppression-Powe

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Don Chisholm
It depends on what kind of finish you want to do as it lends itself to how ever you want to cover it. Finished fabric covering is the lightest at 6 oz. per sq.yd with fiberglass sheeting coming in second or last depending on how well you do it to aluminum covering being the heaviest .025 2024T3

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
Interesting Don, thanks for the info. I have a wooden fuse in the garage now, but I've always wondered about a steel tube substitute based loosely on the Sonerai. Looking at the numbers you've provided it might be possible. I've always thought that a wood stringer and fabric turtle deck would loo

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread patrusso
I have forgotten what my KR fuselage weighed, but my son is building a cassutt and the steel fuselage weighed in at 45 lbs. - Original Message - From: "Dennis Mingear" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: KR> steel tube fuselages &

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
Was that covered or uncovered Pat? Denny ... --- patrusso wrote: > I have forgotten what my KR fuselage weighed, but my > son is building GOP = Greed-Oppression-Power. __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Looks like an engineering stress analysis question, Virg On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Don Chisholm writes: > just to get a dicussion going. I have a hypothetical question to the > net and I'm sure it's been either done or thought about. > If one decided to mate a KR wing set

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Donald Reid
At 01:28 PM 10/15/2005, you wrote: >just to get a dicussion going. I have a hypothetical question to the >net and I'm sure it's been either done or thought about. > If one decided to mate a KR wing set to a truss type steel tube fuselage > how would one go about doing it? >. snip >How would one

KR> steel tube fuselages

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Jacobs
If one decided to mate a KR wing set to a truss type steel tube fuselage how would one go about doing it? Gary Morgan down under in Oz is doing some interesting things along these lines. (www.homepages.ihug.com.au/~gkmorgan ) After building two very successful KR2S style airpla