KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Jeff Scott
I always find it interesting that the thread titles in here end up being one thing vs another thing, like flap v belly board. I'll grant you that building a belly board as an after thought is probably easier than building flaps. My plane was down for 2 or 3 months while I added flaps, fairings

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread peter
I think more effective flaps will require additional elevator authority at flare...if I remember correctly, usually flap deflection moves the center of lift forward (or was that aft?), thereby changing pitch-moment in a nose-down direction. Peter

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Dene
the bellyboard will not be hinged and therefore un supported across its length. Thoughts? Dene Collett -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Flesner via KRnet Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 14:39 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> flaps v belly bo

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Jeff Scott
It should be noted that the "stock" flaps in the plans didn't generate a lot of drag or lift, but were better than nothing. A belly board generates lots of drag, but not lift. But a belly board is really a patch for the lack of planning for adequate flaps in the plans. While I chose to add fl

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
I misspoke a bit on the Nanchang. That is a split flap the whole way across. The Mustang 2 is more a conventional flap outboard of fusalage and like a split flap under the fusalage. Original Message Subject: Re: KR> flaps v belly board From: "brian.kraut--- via KRne

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
inese Nanchang has the same arrangement also: http://getcustomart.wordpress.com/2013/12/02/getcustomart-com-delivers-custom-nose-are-for-vintage-1969-nanchang-cj-6-chinese-trainer/ Original Message Subject: Re: KR> flaps v belly board From: Dene via KRnet List-Pos

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
" wide flaps the plans show. Original Message Subject: Re: KR> flaps v belly board From: Jeff Scott via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Mon, September 15, 2014 9:55 am To: 'KRnet' It should be noted that the "stock" flaps in the plans didn

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Ed Janssen
Huh? I really can't be convinced of that. The force of the air hitting the top of the gurney flap is a force downward on the back of the car - very little, if any, differential pressure is causing any significant downward force. It's like saying that the shape of an airplane wing causes a "va

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Nerobro
You're putting a huge air dam under the plane. This is essentially the same as a gurney flap on the back of a stock car. While the flap itself isn't making downforce on the car, it's making the air under the wing, and quite a distance out to either side of the flap pack up, and provide greater di

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Mark Langford
I wrote: "...or perhaps it changes AOA of the tail or whole airplane to lower drag..." That's got to be the dumbest thing I've ever written, now that I think about it... Mark Langford, Harvest, AL ML at N56ML.com www.N56ML.com

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Mark Langford
Jeff Scott wrote: " A belly board generates lots of drag, but not lift" I thought this also, "common knowledge", I believe, and it may not be true "lift" that the belly board generates, but something makes drops the stall speed about 3 mph. I proved this a few weeks ago while calibrating my stal

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread samantha toner
Having read the ease of the Belly board construction I am wondering if the complexity of?installing flaps is worth while ? I am at the point of finishing the stubs and starting flaps. Knowing what you know about?belly board vs flaps would you guys?install flaps? Is the?additional low speed lift

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Flesner
>Having read the ease of the Belly board construction I am wondering >if the complexity of installing flaps is worth while ? I am at the >point of finishing the stubs and starting flaps. Knowing what you >know about belly board vs flaps would you guys install flaps? Is the >additional low spee

KR> flaps v belly board

2014-09-15 Thread Paul Visk
Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. Original message From: samantha toner via KRnet Date:09/15/2014 2:22 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Subject: KR> flaps v belly board Original message From: samantha toner via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.kr