I misspoke a bit on the Nanchang.  That is a split flap the whole way
across.  The Mustang 2 is more a conventional flap outboard of fusalage
and like a split flap under the fusalage.


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Subject: Re: KR> flaps v belly board
From: "brian.kraut--- via KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, September 15, 2014 5:38 pm
To: "Dene" <avlec at igen.co.za>, "KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>

That is essentially what my Mustang 2 has. The plane was designed with
stub wings similar to the KR and a very long (I think about 10') flap. 
The flap extends a few feet out each side of the fusalage and is
essentially a belly board/split flap under the fusalage. It is very
effective for both additional lift and for drag. Works very well and I
would certainly think it would work great on a KR also.

Here are some pictures showing some different Mustang 2s with the flap
shown.

http://www.mustangaero.com/images/Album/Mustang%20II/Aircraft/Ariosto%20N12JA.jpg
http://www.mustangaero.com/images/Album/Mustang%20II/Aircraft/c-gfrh_1.jpg
http://www.mustangaero.com/images/Album/Mustang%20II/Aircraft/Dixon%20N91MD.jpg
http://www.mustangaero.com/images/Album/Mustang%20II/Aircraft/Koelzer%20M-II.jpg
http://www.mustangaero.com/images/Album/Mustang%20II/Aircraft/Porter%20N632JS.jpg

The Chinese Nanchang has the same arrangement also:

http://getcustomart.wordpress.com/2013/12/02/getcustomart-com-delivers-custom-nose-are-for-vintage-1969-nanchang-cj-6-chinese-trainer/






-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: KR> flaps v belly board
From: Dene via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, September 15, 2014 10:06 am
To: "'Flesner'" <flesner at frontier.com>, "'KRnet'" <krnet at list.krnet.org>

Hi guys
I have not got to that stage yet but has anybody ever thought of joining
the
two flaps to each other via a glass/carbon composite layup under the
belly
of the plane.
That would create both a belly board and flaps with the benefits of
both.
Stiffness of the bellyboard might be an issue as the bellyboard will not
be
hinged and therefore un supported across its length.
Thoughts?
Dene Collett

-----Original Message-----
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Flesner
via
KRnet
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 14:39
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> flaps v belly board


>Having read the ease of the Belly board construction I am wondering 
>if the complexity of installing flaps is worth while ? I am at the 
>point of finishing the stubs and starting flaps. Knowing what you 
>know about belly board vs flaps would you guys install flaps? Is the 
>additional low speed lift significant ?

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I'm guessing the standard flaps on a KR2 do not generate a great deal 
of lift or add significant drag on landing. Any drag on landing is 
good on a KR. No reason you can't have both. I had given thought to 
flap that, with additional movement of the actuator, deployed a speed 
brake. If your KR complete is less than 650 pounds, I'd go with just 
a speed brake. IMHO........

Larry Flesner


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