I am wondering what peoples thoughts are on extending the elevator horn
either above or below and forward of the elevator, via a curved plate and
mount the mass balance weight internally in the top of the rear fuse, below the
elevator, or above the elevator in the base of the fin, obvio
I have a mass balance in mine that predates the simpler design that Mark
Langford and others are using. There was a fair amount of time invested
in the idea and getting it all to fit and operate well, but it is fine
and is tested to 200 mph with stock tail feathers. My pictures are from
the olden d
That is exactly what I did but the weight is on the bottom. I found it more
difficult to mount it on the top part of the horn. I had to carve out some foam
though to allow the movement. All of the control is by cable.
Ronald R. Eason Sr.
Pres. & CEO, KCMO Office
J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Lt
Here is my elevator mass balance arrangement
http://websites.expercraft.com/sidwood/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=7739
Click on the pics for larger download.
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
-engineering@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Wood,
Sidney M (Titan) @ TITAN
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:57 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> elevator mass balance
Here is my elevator mass balance arrangement
http://websites.expercraft.com/sidwood/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=7739
Click on t
Ron,
Did you mean this to go to over 600 netters?
Ed
Ed Janssen
mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com
> I like you web site and good work.
>
> Ronald R. Eason Sr.
Mark L
Have you connected your mass balance yet.( I seem to rember you did not use
it for your early flights)
The reason I ask is That my balance id tailered on yours and wanted to know
if your using it and does it work OK?? or do I need to remove it all
together ??
Phil Matheson
mathes...@dodo
Phil Matheson wrote:
> Have you connected your mass balance yet.( I seem to rember you did not
use
> it for your early flights)
I reconnected it for my first flight! Troy didn't want it, because it was
just another uncertainty that he didn't need, but I'm not too worried about
it. Somebody at t
Just wondering but why would people Counter-balance their elevators because
of a bigger engine when you still can not exceed the VNE of 200mph?
J
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Just wondering but why would people Counter-balance their elevators because
of a bigger engine when you
What do you mean by bigger. (i.e. heavier; power; )
Changing some characteristics may require other changes
which would effect weight and balance.
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From: "JW"
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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:19 PM
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+++ I agree the vne would seem balancing the elevator
is overkill
+++ when it's on the side of safety, I tend to shoot
for overkill
Wise man.
Surely we already know enough to appreciate that
dynamically and statically balanced CTL surfaces are
the way fwd - particularly when we are aspiring to 1
I can't get the link on flutter to open. Suggestions?
Norman Seel
Brandon, FL
norman.s...@verizon.net
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From: "Serge F. Vidal"
To: "'KRnet'"
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:07 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting
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> Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis
>
>
> I can't get the link on flutter to open. Suggestions?
> Norman Seel
> Brandon, FL
> norman.s...@verizon.net
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When you type th url in an email, do not hit enter until you are done.
Hitting enter at the end of the line stops the url address.
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From: "Murray Gill"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Elevator Mass Bala
Jim Wrote
Was the strengh of the counterbalance mount the original issue, or am I
having a senior moment?
Yes , my point in the begining ( before all this got carried away) was to
impact on the importance of the Mass mounting arm strength as well as the
way it is mounted to th
ot;
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting
> Jim Wrote
> Was the strengh of the counterbalance mount the original issue, or am I
> having a senior moment?
>
>
> Yes , my point in the begin
Phil,
Re your question about rod end bearings for attaching a rudder:
I downloaded the Aurora catalogue
http://www.aurorabearing.com/2003-04_Internet_Catalog.pdf and from a quick
read it would appear that the load you are concerned about is the axial load
when used as a rudder hinge. For a three pi
Hi Guys
Some of the stuff I have been reading here is really worrying -
particularly after we had some input from Phil (Oz) - with particular
reference to weight distribution and G loading requirements.
This may be one good example of leaving well alone unless you know what
you are talking about.
come by.
Joe
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From: "Stephen Jacobs"
To: "'KRnet'"
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:56 AM
Subject: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting
> Hi Guys
>
> Some of the stuff I have been reading here is really worrying -
> parti
Joe says
Weight on the ends distributes more effectively when
dynamic forces are applied. I have used this method on
the last aircraft I built(not a KR).
Ed says - Weight on the "ends" is at an extremity -
very far from evenly distributed. This extremeity is
the furthest possible distance from
he weight was at the ends. The aircraft had a canard.
Joe
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From: "Edward Seaman"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting
> Joe says
>
> Weight on the ends distributes more e
Ed,
My old construction webpage has been removed.
However, you can find something similar at
http://www.velocityxl.com/Canard.htm
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From: "Edward Seaman"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Ba
I did not say outboard ends, I said ends.
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From: "joe"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting
> Ed,
> My old construction webpage has been removed.
> However, you can
>>> I didn't mean to imply that "all" counter balance weights were on
the >>> ends.
Hey Joe - I had a look at that web site - really interesting. I can see
what you mean, there is one weight at either end, joined by a
substantial torque tube. It would be difficult to distribute the weight
any be
Here is the link to Old Tony's articles
http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/
... and the one about flutter.
http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/How%20to%20Mass%20
Balance%20Control%20Surfaces.html#TopOfPage
Serge Vidal
KR2 ZS-WEC
- Taildragger, VW
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Date: 04/12/04 04:09:34
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Subject: @SPAM++++ RE: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis
Here is the link to Old Tony's articles
http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/
... an
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