Re: KR> Split flaps

2017-06-24 Thread DAVID FREDRICK BARRY via KRnet
down feeling." regards dave -- Original Message -- From: "Hendrik van Rooyen via KRnet" To: "KRnet" Cc: "Hendrik van Rooyen" Sent: Friday, 23 Jun, 2017 At 11:40 PM Subject: KR> Split flaps Hi Mark & all, What was your experience with your sp

Re: KR> Split flaps / belly board

2017-06-24 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen via KRnet
ssage- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of bjoenunley via KRnet Sent: Saturday, 24 June 2017 1:10 AM To: KRnet Cc: bjoenunley Subject: Re: KR> Split flaps / belly board >>I have a 9 inch X 30 inch belly >>brake that deploys to near 90 >>degrees.

Re: KR> Split flaps / belly board

2017-06-23 Thread bjoenunley via KRnet
>>I have a 9 inch X 30 inch belly >>brake that deploys to near 90 >>degrees.   >>Larry Flesner My first few flights were without using my "belly board".  The last few flights have been with the belly board.  I find that my landing role out is shorter using the speed brake.   Joe Nunley Baker Flo

Re: KR> Split flaps

2017-06-23 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
At 05:26 PM 6/23/2017, you wrote: Based on feedback I received from KR2 pilots I have chosen to build a split flap/belly board option on my KR2. Taken from the concept provided by the Mustang. http://thehdpilot.com/photos/small_339-mustang-II-completed.jpg ++

Re: KR> Split flaps

2017-06-23 Thread Richard Seifert via KRnet
>From one of the (& all) I found belly boards and flaps have different functions. Flaps increase drag and lift. For flaps you need more ground clearance than the standard retract KR has. The belly board, when placed at the main spar, just increases drag without increasing lift. I picked the belly b

Re: KR> Split flaps

2017-06-23 Thread Tucker Brown via KRnet
> 1. a Belly brake will have exactly the same desired effect then. > 2. No need for both split flaps & a belly brake. > Split flaps work great! > Having said that, I'm also a convert to the belly board concept, Henni, Based on feedback I received from KR2 pilots I have chosen to build a split f

KR> Split flaps / belly board

2017-06-23 Thread Larry Flesner via KRnet
Just for confirmation: 1. a Belly brake will have exactly the same desired effect then. 2. No need for both split flaps & a belly brake. If the above is the case, I'll not bother with the stub wings only split flaps, but only install a belly airbrake instead. Henni +

Re: KR> Split flaps

2017-06-23 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen via KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Split flaps Henni van Rooyen wrote: > What was your experience with your split flaps? I intend to make split flaps > on the inboard wings only, all the way to the rear spar. I found a nice > picture where another builder did same & it's really easy to

Re: KR> Split flaps

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Langford via KRnet
Henni van Rooyen wrote: > What was your experience with your split flaps? I intend to make split flaps on the inboard wings only, all the way to the rear spar. I found a nice picture where another builder did same & it's really easy to make. Split flaps work great! I chose split flaps preci

Re: KR> Split flaps

2017-06-23 Thread Jason Brooks via KRnet
They are a good choice for flaps in a small mechanical footprint, the problem that you may encounter is drag. Split flaps produce a higher amount of drag than other flap designs. Considering the weight of the KR, to rapid or to much extension on to large of a surface could cause rapid deceler

Re: KR> Split flaps

2017-06-23 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen via KRnet
en via KRnet Sent: Friday, 23 June 2017 3:41 PM To: KRnet Cc: Hendrik van Rooyen Subject: KR> Split flaps Hi Mark & all, What was your experience with your split flaps? I intend to make split flaps on the inboard wings only, all the way to the rear spar. I found a nice picture where

KR> Split flaps

2017-06-23 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen via KRnet
Hi Mark & all, What was your experience with your split flaps? I intend to make split flaps on the inboard wings only, all the way to the rear spar. I found a nice picture where another builder did same & it's really easy to make. Kind regards, Henni __

KR> split flaps work!

2008-10-12 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
>best I can tell the split flaps increase >the sink rate at 80 mph by a factor of about 2.5x what you get without flaps >at the same speed. Do any of you belly board guys know how yours stack up? >Mark Langford I went for a short

KR> split flaps work!

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Larry Flesner wrote: > I went for a short flight after work today and was going to check my speed > brake for you... I did that test for real today, since it was a calm day and I had lots of time. Reality is closer to a 50% faster descent rate with flaps than without, if you can believe what I

KR> split flaps work! - Returning to the strip from a failed take off!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
-Original Message- From: Mark Langford Sent: Saturday, 11 March 2006 2:33 PM One thing I did test pretty carefully was glide ratio. Bottom line from 8000' to 6000' is that I got 16.0:1 at 97 mph, which makes me feel pretty good, considering how draggy my plane is at this point. That's an

KR> split flaps work! - Returning to the strip from a failed takeoff!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
OK guys. I wasn't talking about doing a 180 degree turn 200' off the ground to make it back to the airport. I didn't realize y'all thought I was that stupid. I was talking about being able to make it back to an airport that I left 3 miles behind me because the engine crapped out, and I'm not

KR> split flaps work!

2008-10-12 Thread bo...@hatconversions.com
Mark, If you are doing landings from abreast the numbers with a big slip, you might make it with a dead engine. Did my landings the same way in the Mustang. When the engine quit for real, it amazed me how fast it came down with a prop stopped. Bobby > Larry Flesner wrote: > >> I went fo

KR> split flaps work!

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Glide should be better with the prop stopped rather than windmilling, Virg On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:44:26 -0800 (PST) bo...@hatconversions.com writes: > Mark, > If you are doing landings from abreast the numbers with a big > slip, > you might make it with a dead engine. Did my landings

KR> split flaps work! - Returning to the strip from a failedtakeoff!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-10-12 Thread Doug Rupert
Hell Mark anyone with a small amount of intelligence could figure that one out and those that can't should be put on ignore. That said you would be surprised at how many experienced pilots that know better = actually try it. We recently lost a beautiful half scale Spitfire up at Brantford

KR> split flaps work!

2008-10-12 Thread Doug Rupert
Mark with all the problems the GRT unit has given you I'm surprised you haven't changed over to the Dynon unit. I've decided to go completely = Dynon D100/120 series since some of us old farts need magnifying glasses to = see the D10 series instruments. Really impressed with the units = capabili

KR> split flaps work!

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
NetHeads, I flew again today, and did a little flap testing. Although I didn't have the laptop gathering information, best I can tell the split flaps increase the sink rate at 80 mph by a factor of about 2.5x what you get without flaps at the same speed. Do any of you belly board guys know ho

KR> split flaps work!

2008-10-12 Thread bo...@hatconversions.com
Mark, There were two prop hubs on e-bay...What are you using as a primer on your bird that is oil resistant? Like I said, I don't want to do any paint work until I'm sure I'm finished with the chain saw. Bobby > NetHeads, > > I flew again today, and did a little flap testing. Although I didn'