KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-31 Thread Virgil N.Salisbury
There is information some where as to the torque for each size bolt and thread pitch. A good reference, Virg On 8/31/2015 2:15 PM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet wrote: > And that is almost how they are done on the Mustang 2. Those without > folding wings use a bolt and nut, but when u

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-31 Thread Mac McConnell-Wood
> > > Rob Schmitt > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Langford via KRnet > To: KRnet > Cc: Mark Langford > Sent: Sun, Aug 30, 2015 6:00 pm > Subject: Re: KR> Reaming WAFs > > > Nobody's shown me a torque for KR wing attach fittings.

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-31 Thread Nerobro
I thought the limit on the WAF was the crush strength of the wood as opposed to the strength of the bolts? On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Virgil N.Salisbury via KRnet < krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: > > There is information some where as to the torque for each size > bolt and thread p

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-31 Thread peter
--Original Message- From: Mac McConnell-Wood via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: Mac McConnell-Wood Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 6:30 am Subject: Re: KR> Reaming WAFs Just to add my 2 cents of limited knowledge - I remember during my time as an airforce tech, torqueing a critical bolt so that the Length of the

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-31 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
Message Subject: Re: KR> Reaming WAFs From: Mark Langford via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sun, August 30, 2015 3:59 pm To: KRnet Cc: Mark Langford Although I'm certainly not advocating anybody do this, you could likely fly around with cottered pins in place of t

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-31 Thread Robert7721
hmitt -Original Message- From: Mark Langford via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: Mark Langford Sent: Sun, Aug 30, 2015 6:00 pm Subject: Re: KR> Reaming WAFs Nobody's shown me a torque for KR wing attach fittings. It's not in the plans. Why is that? Because friction was not even considered i

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-30 Thread John Bouyea
Don Reid wrote back in 2007 that the WAF bolts function better as a single bolt in double shear top & bottom (2 total) than 2 on each fitting, forward and aft, top & bottom (4 total). I know that KRs fly in both configurations. My KR used 4 per side when I got it and (partially based upon Don's wel

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-30 Thread Mark Langford
Nobody's shown me a torque for KR wing attach fittings. It's not in the plans. Why is that? Because friction was not even considered in the analysis of the wing attach joint. It was a pure shear calculation. It's simply a pinned joint, and safe enough on that basis alone. Although I'm certai

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-30 Thread Flesner
At 02:51 PM 8/30/2015, you wrote: >Ignoring clamping friction in a bolted shear joint calculation seems >to be a worst case analysis in that the assumption is: the bolts are >torqued just enough to keep from rattling around. The total load >then would be applied in shear to the bolt. That assu

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-30 Thread Sid Wood
Ignoring clamping friction in a bolted shear joint calculation seems to be a worst case analysis in that the assumption is: the bolts are torqued just enough to keep from rattling around. The total load then would be applied in shear to the bolt. That assumption does not seem realistic for pra

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-30 Thread jon kimmel
Torque is only for keeping the nuts from backing off...it is much better than lockouts. https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/ https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-30 Thread Chris Kinnaman
No one in their right mind would deliberately put a shear joint assembly together without proper torqueing on the bolts. Streamlined flying wires are installed in exactly that manner, with a clevis pin, not a bolt, in shear bearing the tension load of the wire. The clevis pin is retained by

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-29 Thread Matt Quimby
> Matt Quimby wrote: > >>> I?vegot my wing spars aligned and attached my wing attach fittings. The next > step, according to my plans, is to ream the inboard-to-outboard fitting > holes from 3/16" to ??. This being obviously a pretty critical step to > get right, I?m looking for some input on how

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-29 Thread Flesner
At 04:46 PM 8/29/2015, you wrote: >with a 3/166??? bolt connecting my WAFs instead >of ? . I suppose my only recourse is >careful, careful drilling. And then reaming. I think you're right.

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-29 Thread Mark Langford
Sid Wood wrote: > I had understood that the WAF bolts in shear were a backup for the > real attachment: The clamping action due to the bolts squeezing the > two outer and inner WAF plates together. The stress guys I've worked with over the years don't even consider friction as a useful force in

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-29 Thread Chris Kinnaman
Typically the nut is only there as part of the design to keep the shear pin, in this case the bolt, from falling out. Chris Kinnaman On 8/29/2015 2:45 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: > Sid Wood wrote: > >> I had understood that the WAF bolts in shear were a backup for the >> real attachment

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-29 Thread Sid Wood
I had understood that the WAF bolts in shear were a backup for the real attachment: The clamping action due to the bolts squeezing the two outer and inner WAF plates together. If the bolts were a sliding fit, then the WAFs would need to move to get the holding action without the clamping action

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-29 Thread Mark Langford
Matt Quimby wrote: >> I?vegot my wing spars aligned and attached my wing attach fittings. The next step, according to my plans, is to ream the inboard-to-outboard fitting holes from 3/16" to ??. This being obviously a pretty critical step to get right, I?m looking for some input on how some other

KR> Reaming WAFs

2015-08-28 Thread Matt Quimby
Hello all, new member here. I?m partway through building a KR-2. I?ve got my wing spars aligned and attached my wing attach fittings. The next step, according to my plans, is to ream the inboard-to-outboard fitting holes from 3/16" to ??. This being obviously a pretty critical step to get right,