Just to add my 2 cents of limited knowledge - I remember during my time as
an airforce tech, torqueing a critical bolt so that the Length of the
torqued bolt was *increased* by a set figure.......what was all that about
?!
Mac

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Robert7721 via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
wrote:

> Concur with Mark.  No need to get concerned about this one folks.  I
> actually did a bad thing and forgot to tighten one, I found it during
> another maintenance check later. Probably flew with the nut loose for a
> couple hundred hours but it didn't make any difference.
>
>
> Rob Schmitt
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Langford via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Langford <ml at n56ml.com>
> Sent: Sun, Aug 30, 2015 6:00 pm
> Subject: Re: KR> Reaming WAFs
>
>
> Nobody's shown me a torque for KR wing attach fittings.  It's not in the
>
> plans.  Why is that?  Because friction was not even considered in the
>
> analysis of the wing attach joint. It was a pure shear calculation.
> It's
> simply a pinned joint, and safe enough on that basis alone.
>
> Although I'm
> certainly not advocating anybody do this, you could likely
> fly around with
> cottered pins in place of the bolts to keep them from
> sliding out of place,
> and you'd be fine.  I'm pretty sure there are
> airplanes and ultralights that
> use simple pinned joints.
>
> Sure, torquing the bolts to some reasonable number
> is the common-sense
> thing to do, and as Larry pointed out, people do exactly
> that.
> Calculating optimal torque for a lubricated fastener and nut is
>
> commendable, but not necessary.
>
> I'm a mechanical engineer, and recognizing
> that it's simply a pinned
> joint, I just torqued them by feel and got on with
> my business.
> Sure...considering friction would be nice, but the designer
> simply can't
> count on these connections being done perfectly, so he designs
> them to
> be foolproof, and then add a factor of safety on top of that.  That's
>
> what we're dealing with on these WAFs.  After all, this plane was touted
> as
> being buildable with only simple tools...
>
>
> Mark
> Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
>
>
>
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