KR> Fuselage weight question

2008-10-12 Thread Mike johnson
Does anyone know of any builder that ended up with an unusually light weight fuselage? I searched the archives and had some trouble finding any isolated information on what to expect for weight with no engine. I would like to beat the average if I could. Thanks a bunch, Mike Johnson

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2008-10-12 Thread Myron (Dan) Freeman
Try this http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ebarros/ - Original Message - From: "Mike johnson" To: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: KR> Fuselage weight question > Does anyone know of any builder that ended up with an unusually light > weight f

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2008-10-12 Thread Red
te: > Try this > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ebarros/ > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike johnson" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:05 PM > Subject: KR> Fuselage weight question > > > > Does anyone know o

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2008-10-12 Thread Jamie Duff
t: Re: KR> Fuselage weight question My question is, Has anyone tried to reduce (lower) the turtledeck in size...i.e. more like the KR1? It seems logical that you should be able to lower the taper, give more bubble effect (increase rearward visibility) from the canopy and reduce weight? --

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2008-10-12 Thread Don Chisholm
f1981=btinternet@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Red Sent: 24 October 2006 18:28 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage weight question My question is, Has anyone tried to reduce (lower) the turtledeck in size...i.e. more like the KR1? It seems logical that you should be able to lower the taper, give mor

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2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Red wrote: > My question is, Has anyone tried to reduce (lower) the > turtledeck in size...i.e. more like the KR1? It seems > logical that you should be able to lower the taper, > give more bubble effect (increase rearward visibility) > from the canopy and reduce weight? Reducing the taper to re

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2008-10-12 Thread Fred Johnson
: KR> Fuselage weight question Red wrote: > My question is, Has anyone tried to reduce (lower) the > turtledeck in size...i.e. more like the KR1? It seems > logical that you should be able to lower the taper, > give more bubble effect (increase rearward visibility) > from the

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2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
--- - Original Message - From: "Fred Johnson" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: RE: KR> Fuselage weight question >I agree with Mark, look at the RV4 series and the Harmon Rocket > > Fred Johnson > Product

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2008-10-12 Thread Charles Burgoon
Did they see this on the P-51? Or did they do an engine swap along with the redesign? > From: riksh...@interl.net> To: kr...@mylist.net> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage > weight question> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:41:42 -0500> > I also agree with > Mark from my exp. in C

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2008-10-12 Thread Fred Johnson
Charles, The P-51 did change on the "D" model to a bubble canopy, not for speed though, for pilot visibility. Plus the Merlin was added to the "C" model for speed and then they tweaked it all through production. Fred Johnson Product Manager T.E. West, LLC.

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2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
t [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Fred Johnson Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:42 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR> Fuselage weight question I agree with Mark, look at the RV4 series and the Harmon Rocket Fred Johnson Product Manager T.E. West,

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2008-10-12 Thread Bob Branch
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2008-10-12 Thread Steve Jacobs
> Reducing the taper to resemble a bubble will cost you in performance in > the > form of drag on the back of the canopy. That's probably why the KR2 went > to > the straight turtledeck. And plexiglas is probably heavier than your > average turtledeck material per square foot. +++

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2008-10-12 Thread Steve Jacobs
> Try this > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ebarros/ ++ Even better - go to his site direct (http://www.kr2-egb.com.ar/) - and translate the pages, it is almost as good as Langford's site and better than most construction manuals. His complete fuse excluding spars and legs weighs 2

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2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
>> Reducing the taper to resemble a bubble will cost you in performance in >> the >> form of drag on the back of the canopy. > Not sure that's right Mark - refer the 240 mph (2,000lb) GP4, T18 and > Mustang II plus any number of modern designs that have concave curves in > all > planes. (Apogee

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2008-10-12 Thread Randy Smith
I wasn't going to say anything about the canopy, But when you say Mark is wrong and you are not flying yet I can't resist. I had a KR-2 With a bubble canopy that you could see out the back(if you could figure out how to turn around in a KR) and I was about 10 mph slower than the KRs with the high b

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2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Again, Brian Paser's book, Virg On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:49:11 +0200 "Steve Jacobs" writes: > > > Reducing the taper to resemble a bubble will cost you in > performance in > > the > > form of drag on the back of the canopy. That's probably why the > KR2 went > > to > > the straight tu

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2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
, 2006 4:08 PM To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage weight question Again, Brian Paser's book, Virg On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:49:11 +0200 "Steve Jacobs" writes: > > > Reducing the taper to resemble a bubble will cost you in > performance in > > the

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2008-10-12 Thread Pete Diffey
Hi Mark is absolutely right, to mimimise drag through flow separation, any object should be streamlined at as shallow an angle as possible, so the tail should resemble a long cone, but like all these things, there is a compromise, the cones are always kept shorter than ideal. A long aeroplane