Re: KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-15 Thread Randall Smith via KRnet
>>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:00 AM, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org wrote: >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:40:09 +0200 (CEST) >>> From: Stef den Boer mailto:stefk...@ziggo.nl>> >>> To: KRnet mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org>> >

Re: KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-15 Thread Stef den Boer via KRnet
gt; > > On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:00 AM, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org wrote: > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:40:09 +0200 (CEST) > > From: Stef den Boer mailto:stefk...@ziggo.nl>> > > To: KRnet mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org&

Re: KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-15 Thread svd via KRnet
l>> > To: KRnet mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org>> > Subject: Re: KR> Aerobatics > Message-ID: <322412091.995079.1539542410...@mail.ziggo.nl > <mailto:322412091.995079.1539542410...@mail.ziggo.nl>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi all, >

Re: KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-14 Thread Stef den Boer via KRnet
Hi all, I did talked about light aerobatics. Barrel roll and hi turns. No spin or cuban eight or that kind of stuff. But I have seen te responce, I think there is no written down approval,for light aerobatics. So I will not put it in my POH. Thanks for all the responce. Stef > Op 12 oktober 20

Re: KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-13 Thread Tommy Waymack via KRnet
During STC testing for radar pod on the wing of a Beech Bonanza B58,a ballistic droge parachute was attached to the tail and an emergency door release hinges installed so the test pilot could perform the spin tests and never exceed tests required for approval of the radar pod on the wing.Fortunatel

Re: KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-12 Thread Bill Jacobs via KRnet
Owen, Thanks for taking the time to reply in depth. It is much appreciated.Regards, Bill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl. On Friday, October 12, 2018, 1:00:51 PM EDT, svd via KRnet wrote: Hi Stef, One issue to resolve for yourself before aerobatics in your KR would be spins...

Re: KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-12 Thread svd via KRnet
e (which are required here for aerobatics) (https://airfactsjournal.com/2016/06/aerobatics-need-parachute/). Cheers, Owen > On Oct 12, 2018, at 9:00 AM, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org wrote: > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:20:45 +0200 (CEST) > From: Stef den Boer m

Re: KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-12 Thread Flesner via KRnet
I know we there is a lot spoken about aerobatics, but is there a official document thats approve the light aerobatics? Stef Stef, I don't know of any "official document" that app

KR> Aerobatics

2018-10-12 Thread Stef den Boer via KRnet
Hi, Bussy to finalize the paperwork and my pilot operating handbook. I know we there is a lot spoken about aerobatics, but is there a official document thats approve the light aerobatics? Stef Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2 http://www.mast

KR> Aerobatics

2012-06-28 Thread stef...@kpnmail.nl
: kr...@mylist.net Onderwerp: KR> Aerobatics Stef, Sounds like you just need something to make DCA happy. On KRNET somewhere there is an in-depth structural analysis done by someone many years ago that if memory serves should be perfect for your needs. I'm currently out of town and wit

KR> KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
> > >http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/MSAE/pdf/Bravo.F11.pdf The author states on page 66 that the applicable reg's are FAR 23. Is that correct or is it FAR 21 for experimentals? Someone help me out here. Am I jus

KR> KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 02:08 AM 6/27/2012, you wrote: >Just found this 110 page research paper on the KR Structural Analysis. I >don't know anything about the author's credentials, but the research was >done for his Master's thesis. >http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/MSAE/pdf/Bravo.F11.pdf >Rodger +++

KR> KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread Tony King
I'm glad to hear others questioning the validity of aspects of this paper. I was starting to worry that my still very limited understanding of aerodynamics was badly flawed. I skimmed the whole thing and also noticed a number of statements that seem to contradict my understanding of the collective

KR> KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread Jeff Scott
Sorry if my previous post was so badly formatted. My mail program takes a nicely formatted email, then screws it up for me after the fact. I'll repost as what I posted previously came back to me so messed up as to make it unreadable. My apologies for the repost.

KR> KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread Jeff Scott
- Original Message - From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Sent: 06/27/12 06:28 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis At 02:38 AM 6/27/2012, you wrote: >Just found this 110 page research paper on the KR Structural Analysis. I >don't know anything

KR> KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 02:38 AM 6/27/2012, you wrote: >Just found this 110 page research paper on the KR Structural Analysis. I >don't know anything about the author's credentials, but the research was >done for his Master's thesis. > >http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/MSAE/pdf/Bravo.F11.pdf > >Rodger +++

KR> Re: KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread Brian and Sue Deveson
o: "'KRnet'" Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: RE: KR> Re: KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis Wow. Excellent stuff. Equation 4.13 explains it all :-) John Martindale 29 Jane Circuit Toormina NSW 2452 Australia ph:61 2 6658 4767 m:0403 432179 email:john_mar

KR> Re: KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread John Martindale
Nicolls Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012 5:09 PM To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: KR> Re: KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis Just found this 110 page research paper on the KR Structural Analysis. I don't know anything about the author's credentials, but the research was done for his Master&#x

KR> Re: KR Aerobatics/Structural Analysis

2012-06-27 Thread Rodger Nicolls
Just found this 110 page research paper on the KR Structural Analysis. I don't know anything about the author's credentials, but the research was done for his Master's thesis. http://www.engr.sjsu.edu/nikos/MSAE/pdf/Bravo.F11.pdf Rodger N292AK

KR> Aerobatics

2012-06-26 Thread laser...@juno.com
Stef, Sounds like you just need something to make DCA happy. On KRNET somewhere there is an in-depth structural analysis done by someone many years ago that if memory serves should be perfect for your needs. I'm currently out of town and with a slow internet connection so cannot go looking (jus

KR> Aerobatics

2012-06-26 Thread Teate, Stephen
"Are the KR's aerobatic?" Hello Brian, The simple answer is yes. Now go beyond that and the simplicity ends. As Larry said and you implied, you are not going to go out and do any "competitive" aerobatics in a KR. And that is not because the airframe can't handle it but a lot of other reasons

KR> Aerobatics

2012-06-26 Thread Mac McConnell-Wood
I recall an article in "Kitplanes"? about 1986ish written by a US Marine test pilot. I think he put the KR through it's aerobatic paces-in spades! Sorry- I've lost the article,but you might be able to dig it up somewhere! Good luck. Mac On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Brian and Sue Deveson < sb

KR> Aerobatics

2012-06-25 Thread Brian and Sue Deveson
Thanks Larry. Brian - Original Message - From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: KR> Aerobatics At 04:39 PM 6/25/2012, you wrote: >Are the KR's aerobatic? >Brian ++

KR> Aerobatics, engine sound

2012-06-25 Thread stef...@kpnmail.nl
sner Verzonden: di 26-6-2012 0:31 Aan: KRnet Onderwerp: Re: KR> Aerobatics At 04:39 PM 6/25/2012, you wrote: >Are the KR's aerobatic? >Brian ++ The KR's are capable of limited aerobatics, basically loops and rolls, if yo

KR> Aerobatics

2012-06-25 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 04:39 PM 6/25/2012, you wrote: >Are the KR's aerobatic? >Brian ++ The KR's are capable of limited aerobatics, basically loops and rolls, if you watch the speed and G loads. In the U.S., the maneuvers must be performed during the initial

KR> Aerobatics

2012-06-25 Thread Brian and Sue Deveson
Hi one and all, Are the KR's aerobatic? Not that I am one to fly inverted, even though I am from the land down under, just I have not heard about this feature a lot. Cheers, Brian Bundaberg Qld Australia

KR> Aerobatics and Stability

2008-10-12 Thread Jeff Scott
There is nothing wrong with doing negative G aerobatics with a gravity fuel system or float type carb. The engine quits as soon as you go negative and starts as soon as you go positive. I did them for years in my modified Startduster. Most pilots mistake getting light in the seat for negat

KR> Aerobatics and Stability

2008-10-12 Thread Golden, Kevin
But will a VW aircraft engine windmill? Kevin in MO -Original Message- From: Jeff Scott [mailto:jscott.pi...@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:52 AM To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: KR> Aerobatics and Stability There is nothing wrong with doing negative G aerobat

KR> Aerobatics in the KR?

2008-10-12 Thread Dene Collett (SA)
iginal Message - From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: RE: KR> Aerobatics in the KR? > Hi, Dene! Was it my plane (ZS-WEC), by any chance? > > Cheers, > > Serge Vidal > KR2 ZS-WEC > - Taildragger,

KR> Aerobatics in the KR?

2008-10-12 Thread Serge F. Vidal
<mailto:serge.vi...@ate-international.com> -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dene Collett (SA) Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 21:41 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Aerobatics in the KR? Hi Guys I have done rolls in a KR2 and I

KR> Aerobatics in the KR?

2008-10-12 Thread larry severson
Janette Rand has an article about a test pilot who did the full range of aerobatics in a KR with no problems. She promised me the article, but I never got it. Can one perform 'recreational' aerobatics in a Corvair-powered KR2? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 lar...@socal

KR> Aerobatics in the KR?

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
that I am not at all comfortable with the idea of spinning. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Duncan Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:10 AM To: kr...@mylist.net S

KR> Aerobatics in the KR?

2008-10-12 Thread Dene Collett (SA)
- From: "Duncan" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:09 PM Subject: KR> Aerobatics in the KR? > Hi, > I've searched the archives of this list, and have not really found much, so > here goes with my question: > > Can one perform 'recreational' aerobati

KR> Aerobatics in the KR?

2008-10-12 Thread Duncan
Hi, I've searched the archives of this list, and have not really found much, so here goes with my question: Can one perform 'recreational' aerobatics in a Corvair-powered KR2? Before you dash off a reply pointing out that I should look elsewhere for a more suitable aircraft, let me hasten to ad

KR>Aerobatics and KRs

2008-10-12 Thread rfreiber...@earthlink.net
He said "It is my understanding that two things make it undesirable if not potentially dangerous to do acrobatic maneuvers in the KR. One is the removable wing" Most aircraft have removable wings. Take some aerobatic lessons and learn to do them right. Don't take your first spin lesson on turn t