Kia Ora
I preface this by stating the obvious - that as a 'hick in outback New Zealand'
I know absolutely nothing about US Federal Law, but surely there is a brief
amongst your ilk who could provide more substantive advice.
I am assuming that the copyright holder of the material in question wis
Hi Luis -
Been reading the mail on the above topics.
Glover has had a notice that his biz is for sale for some time now - I
don't recall for sure what the asking price was,
but it seems like I heard around $20K or so for the (rights ??) and
inventory he has (no idea how big or small).
He was
No, it doesn't. There are plenty of one off designs flying in Australia.
An aircraft must have a data plate to be registered, and it's illegal to
fly an unregistered aircraft (unless the regulator has granted explicit
approval), but the data on the data plate (serial no, model designation,
etc.)
John, does that mean no one in Australia can build their own design
aircraft?
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> >> In Australia, no serial number means no registration plate means no
> insurance means flight is illegal. The take home message is do it once from
> the start and follow the rules like the rest of us to avoid issu
Reading all these plans posts, I would suggest the Community may wish to
pursue the option mentioned below...
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 4:42 PM John Bouyea wrote:
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> A group of builders & pilots later talked about producing a set of plans
> and a construction manual <> largely following the desig
The search for certified KR plans continues
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> On Jan 17, 2022, at 1:58 AM, Luis Claudio via KRnet
> wrote:
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> If I am understanding the conversation as it is being interpreted in
> KRnet.org, Janette is saying that there will be no new plans and serial
> numbers issue
If I am understanding the conversation as it is being interpreted in KRnet.org,
Janette is saying that there will be no new plans and serial numbers issued for
this design. The implied or otherwise reasoning is a liability in the event of
a lawsuit. If this is correct, then in essence the design
NvAreo holds the copyright to the plans apparently. Mate
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> On Jan 17, 2022, at 1:18 AM, Jamie Lockhart wrote:
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> You’ve obviously missed out on the day’s conversation lol. As for me not
> being able to afford an airplane build…. Please mind your business. Mate
>
> Sent
You’ve obviously missed out on the day’s conversation lol. As for me not being
able to afford an airplane build…. Please mind your business. Mate
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> On Jan 17, 2022, at 1:11 AM, John Martindale wrote:
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> Buy a set of plans from Jeanette like the rest of us have. Support h
Buy a set of plans from Jeanette like the rest of us have. Support her as she
has us over the decades. If you can't afford the plans then chances are you
won't be able to afford to build. I'm surprised you apparently haven't yet
contacted her.
In Australia, no serial number means no registration
ummm.
Let's see.. so I bought a kr2 with flight time, a tail number and special
airworthiness cert and plans.
beat up plans..
missing stuff..
I bought another set of plans with another build authorization, reciept and
auth number.
so can I sell that second set??
jg
On Sun, Jan 16, 2
On 1/16/2022 8:25 PM, shafferj45...@twc.com wrote:
Jamie, It could be that the Manufacturer / Rites Holder, no longer
wishes to sell them.
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Jeanette Rand said today that no one is authorized to sell Rand Robinson
K
Jamie, It could be that the Manufacturer / Rites Holder, no longer
wishes to sell them. You should be asking to buy the plans from
someone that did not build one, but bought the plans. There are some
out there. I also seem to be seeing an awful lot of folks lately, that
claim to have bought a KR p
Ok will do 👍
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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 8:27 PM, michael inskeep wrote:
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> Has the kr2 plans changed any ? i'm not talking about the S and its
> many mods .
>
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 7:16 PM Flesner wrote:
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>> If anyone else has a set of plans that were never used
Has the kr2 plans changed any ? i'm not talking about the S and its
many mods .
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 7:16 PM Flesner wrote:
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>
> If anyone else has a set of plans that were never used to complete an
> aircraft they might be a source for now for plans. Like taking your
> grandma's medicine ma
If anyone else has a set of plans that were never used to complete an
aircraft they might be a source for now for plans. Like taking your
grandma's medicine maybe but hey...
Larry Flesner
-Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/i
On 1/16/2022 6:02 PM, michael inskeep wrote:
These plans are
official KR plans. Cant see just letting them rot away. The plane
was never completed and most of it was scrapped.
There would be no legal issues involved in
I'd like 100.00 + shipping for them. However, I sent a reply to
someone else before I saw your
email. re-mail me in a couple days if interested and the other person
doesn't want them they're yours.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 11:17 AM Jamie Lockhart via KRnet
wrote:
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> How much are you asking for
I’d like to enquire about your Kr plans Michael ?
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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 8:06 PM, Jamie Lockhart wrote:
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> I’ll take the plans & $100 seeing as I’m the one looking lol.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 8:03 PM, michael inskeep wrote:
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>> I see ther
I’ll take the plans & $100 seeing as I’m the one looking lol.
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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 8:03 PM, michael inskeep wrote:
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> I see there is a big to -do on the page about plans. These plans are
> official KR plans. Cant see just letting them rot away. The plane
> was never c
I see there is a big to -do on the page about plans. These plans are
official KR plans. Cant see just letting them rot away. The plane
was never completed and most of it was scrapped. anyway . How
about $100.00 +shipping if outside usa. is that reasonable?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 3:29 PM
Jamie.
Jeanette is Ken Rands widow. She is the owner of the design and has always
protected her rights of ownership. Like both I previously said and what John
Bouyea stated are facts and the plans can not be lawfully duplicated. There is
only one person other than Jeanette who has the rights to
On 1/16/2022 3:49 PM, Jamie Lockhart via KRnet wrote:
Who is Jeannette ? Can she find me a set of plans ?
Jeanette is the widow of the designer, Ken Rand, and ran the business
for many years after Ken's death.
I just got off the phone
Who is Jeannette ? Can she find me a set of plans ?
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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 5:48 PM, Jamie Lockhart wrote:
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> Who are you John Bouyea ? In affiliation with me looking for kr2 plans ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 5:42 PM, John Bouyea wrote:
>>
>> His
Who are you John Bouyea ? In affiliation with me looking for kr2 plans ?
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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 5:42 PM, John Bouyea wrote:
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> History:
> This topic of official plans seems to come up every 3 - 5 years. The last
> time, I called Jeannette and told her without ongoing supp
History:
This topic of official plans seems to come up every 3 - 5 years. The last time,
I called Jeannette and told her without ongoing support we feared the design
would wither and die away. We offered to do all the work of making plans
available and would send her all the residual income afte
On 1/16/2022 10:58 AM, Larry wrote:
Lets try to eliminate the bottleneck on getting sets of the plans
before we start bootlegging them. This has been a long standing issue
that needs to get resolved.
Larry Flesner
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I
D'oh! I do apologizeAnd you are absolutely right. I Just "assumed" the support
was still there.
Bill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl.
On Sunday, January 16, 2022, 01:37:24 PM EST, Jamie Lockhart via KRnet
wrote:
I’ve been trying to purchase official KR plans for a couple months now Bill
Jac
I’ve been trying to purchase official KR plans for a couple months now Bill
Jacobs. When the manufacturer or rites holders won’t reply back , what would
you Bill Jacobs recommend ?
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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:02 PM, Bill Jacobs via KRnet
> wrote:
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> IMHO.Wouldn't you rath
IMHO.Wouldn't you rather support the KR community buying the
official/serialized plans?Besides being a bootleg copy of copyrighted
material. How many copies of copies made along with the additional degradation
added ea. time? Again, just my 2c.Regards.Bill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl.
On Su
On 1/16/2022 10:15 AM, John Crossen via KRnet wrote:
To anyone in the group: I could run a copy of my build book for the cost of
coping and shipping.
Rick. A
=
Lets try to eliminate the bottleneck on getting sets of the plan
Build a KR2 as a single Seat. I think they call it a KR-1.5.
Dave M
> On 01/15/2022 11:09 PM Jamie Lockhart via KRnet wrote:
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>
> Looking to speak with someone at nvaero Lee. I want to ask questions about
> the prefabricated kit parts. I’m also considering building a kr1 but from my
> u
I’m not trying to put a damper on this but y’all better check out the copyright
on the plans. They specify one aircraft per plan set.
Copying these without permission may come back to haunt you.
Mark Jones
Oldsmar, Fl
N771MJ “WunderBird”
www.flykr2s.com
flyk...@gmail.com
> On Jan 16, 2022,
Yes...I want one. Please mark me down for a copy. Let me know where to send
my mailing address, and how to send you the cost.John Crossen
On Sunday, January 16, 2022, 09:01:31 AM GMT-4, Margi Armstrong
wrote:
To anyone in the group: I could run a copy of my build book for the cost of
Dear Rick,
That's great, how much can I pay you? What is your bank account number?
Kind regards,
Arie Post
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To anyone in the
To anyone in the group: I could run a copy of my build book for the cost of
coping and shipping.
Rick. A
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