Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread David Jarvie
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 19:33:15 Christoph Cullmann wrote: > Am Dienstag, 17. Mai 2011, 19:03:41 schrieb Albert Astals Cid: > > A Tuesday, May 17, 2011, Martin Gräßlin va escriure: > > > @all: please keep the emotions out of this thread and be constructive. I > > > offered a possible solution for th

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Christoph Cullmann
Am Dienstag, 17. Mai 2011, 19:03:41 schrieb Albert Astals Cid: > A Tuesday, May 17, 2011, Martin Gräßlin va escriure: > > @all: please keep the emotions out of this thread and be constructive. I > > offered a possible solution for the "problem" yesterday and nobody seems > > to be interested in act

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Tuesday, May 17, 2011, Martin Gräßlin va escriure: > @all: please keep the emotions out of this thread and be constructive. I > offered a possible solution for the "problem" yesterday and nobody seems > to be interested in actually improving the situation, instead it seems > like some serious dis

Re: Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Martin Gräßlin
@all: please keep the emotions out of this thread and be constructive. I offered a possible solution for the "problem" yesterday and nobody seems to be interested in actually improving the situation, instead it seems like some serious discussion for the sake of discussion is going on. This is

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Michael Jansen
> I do not claim that the splitter situation you mention is an example of > great usability, but i do claim that you're fighting the wrong problem > here. > You simply should not run into misclicks. If it happens too often and it's > not about your input device, than the UI element needs improvemen

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am 17.05.2011, 14:47 Uhr, schrieb Michael Jansen : > So you do not consider it breaking the usability That was NOT the criticized claim. It was "Until then you BREAK code" - a statement which has so far not seen any proof. > and take random 1 or 2 pixel wide rows/columns and turn them into a >

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Michael Jansen
> Heard that argument over and over again, but seen no proof at all (while i > know about one issue, which -see below- was/is usercode bug.) > I've checked the oxygen code and it is pretty careful to not steal any > input action. So you do not consider it breaking the usability of an application

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Nathan Bradshaw
Right after you point to the ones that contra-indicate it. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Christophe Giboudeaux wrote: > On Tuesday 17 May 2011 09:00:10 Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote: > > Hi, > > [...] > > > > Some of the reasons justifying the feature have actually already been > > discussed in

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am 17.05.2011, 13:00 Uhr, schrieb Michael Jansen : >> > . As an example all dockwidget using applications (Kontact, Kmail, >> > kdevelop, dolphin, konqueror ... ) where you drag the application >> > instead of resizing the docks if you are just one pixel off. > ... > Her is the first list of appli

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Hugo Pereira Da Costa
On 05/17/2011 01:57 PM, Christophe Giboudeaux wrote: On Tuesday 17 May 2011 09:00:10 Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote: Hi, [...] Some of the reasons justifying the feature have actually already been discussed in this thread (by Martin), but must have been lost in translations: - it fits perfectly

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Christophe Giboudeaux
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 09:00:10 Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote: Hi, [...] > > Some of the reasons justifying the feature have actually already been > discussed in this thread (by Martin), but must have been lost in > translations: > > - it fits perfectly within oxygen, which makes no distinction b

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Michael Jansen
> > . As an example all dockwidget using applications (Kontact, Kmail, > > kdevelop, dolphin, konqueror ... ) where you drag the application > > instead of > > resizing the docks if you are just one pixel off. Resize it depending > > on its > > state and sometimes move it by a hundred or more pixe

Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?

2011-05-17 Thread Hugo Pereira Da Costa
On 05/17/2011 08:29 AM, Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote: > Let me sum up before i go back and contemplate the change of culture > in kde. > >> Ultimately, I believe that the decision about what the default settings >> for Oxygen's "window drag" feature is Nuno (who designs oxygen) and me >> (who de