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1999-12-06 Thread Jenn V.
Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Jenn V. wrote: > > > I had not intended to stereotype, and I /definately/ was not intending to > > slur a very valid and often appropriate programming method. But saying I > > can effectively program that way would be like saying I have brown eyes

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1999-12-06 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Jenn V. wrote: > I had not intended to stereotype, and I /definately/ was not intending to > slur a very valid and often appropriate programming method. But saying I > can effectively program that way would be like saying I have brown eyes. > Completely wrong. Not 'better' o

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1999-12-06 Thread Ian Phillips
> Not at ALL stupid. I'm FAR more interested in getting the specification > list and the design set done than in picking a language. I'm with Jenn on this one. I don't think we _can_ start to talk about a language choice until we have a basic spec/design-goal for the project. I mean, are we even

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1999-12-05 Thread Jenn V.
Maureen Lecuona wrote: > > Jenn: > > Let us not start stereotyping each other before we have all even met, okay? > BTW, I seldom prototype, but I sometimes need to give demos of working ideas. > There's a lot to be said for producing working code before claiming one design > is better than ano

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1999-12-05 Thread Maureen Lecuona
Jenn: Let us not start stereotyping each other before we have all even met, okay? Just because some of the people want to use PYTHON, this does mean they are "prototypers". I will put out a preliminary specification document, and a design document so we can apportion out the work as we see fit.

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1999-12-04 Thread jenn
curious wrote: > > pardon my stupidity.. > what will this planned management software do? Not at ALL stupid. I'm FAR more interested in getting the specification list and the design set done than in picking a language. To be somewhat cliched: there's two types of programmer. Ahem. One type: S

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1999-12-04 Thread Aaron Malone
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 07:08:25PM -0500, Maureen Lecuona wrote: > > Thanks. I just ordered it. What about GTK+? Any good docs out there? I just picked up a copy of "Learning Python" last night at Barnes & Noble, and right next to it were several copies of a book by Havoc Pennington on GNOME/

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1999-12-03 Thread Maureen Lecuona
It's project management not planned management :-). Ever hear of (hate to write the word, MS Project). That's the basic idea. Maureen Lecuona curious wrote: > > pardon my stupidity.. > what will this planned management software do? > > /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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1999-12-03 Thread Maureen Lecuona
I will check it out. Maureen Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Maureen Lecuona wrote: > > > Thanks. I just ordered it. What about GTK+? Any good docs out there? > > ObPlug: Yours truly wrote a chapter from the forthcoming Teach Yourself > Gtk+ Programming. > > I haven't seen

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1999-12-03 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Maureen Lecuona wrote: > Thanks. I just ordered it. What about GTK+? Any good docs out there? ObPlug: Yours truly wrote a chapter from the forthcoming Teach Yourself Gtk+ Programming. I haven't seen any really good stuff out there, but I do have the 10 Minute Total Idiot'

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1999-12-03 Thread curious
pardon my stupidity.. what will this planned management software do? /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.curious.org/ / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail"This quote is f

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1999-12-03 Thread Maureen Lecuona
Deirdre: Thanks. I just ordered it. What about GTK+? Any good docs out there? Maureen Lecuona Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > "Learning Python" is the best one I've seen. There will be a Sams "Teach > Yourself Python" book (which may be better, dunno). And if I ever get the [EMAIL P

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1999-12-03 Thread curious
I agree.. programming python walks you though python programming though the development of a text join and split program.. written in all sorts of strange ways.. which leads the reader to have to figure out what the author is trying to do in a given area before he/she can grasp the concepts... pul

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1999-12-03 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Patti Ames wrote: > On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:26:29PM -0800, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > > > I'm not really fond of "Programming Python." > > What's wrong with it? I've been thinking of getting that one > myself - or "Learning Python". It's annoying. Sit down and read it an

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1999-12-03 Thread Patti Ames
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:26:29PM -0800, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > I'm not really fond of "Programming Python." > > My favorite Python book and the one I used for learning (since it was > relevant) is "Internet Programming with Python" but that's out of print. > What's wrong with it? I've be

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1999-12-03 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Maureen Lecuona wrote: > Okay Deirdre, what is the best PYTHON introductory text in your opinion? "Learning Python" is the best one I've seen. There will be a Sams "Teach Yourself Python" book (which may be better, dunno). And if I ever get the book proposal finished , there

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1999-12-03 Thread Maureen Lecuona
Okay Deirdre, what is the best PYTHON introductory text in your opinion? maureen Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, curious wrote: > > > 2> alot of redhat's controlpanel stuff was (and probably still is) written > > in perl (try locate *.py sometime) > > Actually, Python is used m

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1999-12-03 Thread curious
sorry that was a typo on my part... s/perl/python oops if you look at the *.py files you would have seen they were python I was aguring merits of python in my points.. sorry for the confusion the typo caused... Chris /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASC

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1999-12-03 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, curious wrote: > 2> alot of redhat's controlpanel stuff was (and probably still is) written > in perl (try locate *.py sometime) Actually, Python is used more at Red Hat these days than Perl. There's a good reason for it, eloquently stated by Alan Cox: you can't guarantee per

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1999-12-02 Thread curious
1> python runs on most platforms out of the box.. with little/no porting (even less then perl) 2> alot of redhat's controlpanel stuff was (and probably still is) written in perl (try locate *.py sometime) 3> having python installed is more akin to having glib to run apps or kdelibs to run kde ap