Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: WESP extensibility

2009-12-08 Thread Tero Kivinen
Brian Swander writes: > 0 - option data does not change en-route. This option is >included in the WESP ICV computation. > > We'll be using this flag, so this option will always be integrity > protected. One of the things that disturb me here is that AH was not acceptable because of the compl

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Labelled IPsec

2009-12-08 Thread Dan McDonald
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 06:59:13PM -0500, Paul Moore wrote: > > You could have PAD entries that set labels. We do that today in > > OpenSolaris. > > I apologize, but I'm not familiar with OpenSolaris's IPsec - do you use the > pad to assign labels when none are present (the fallback case) or do

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: IKE/IPsec high availability andload sharing

2009-12-08 Thread V Jyothi-B22245
Hi, I am willing to review multiple versions of the draft, contribute text and co-author it. Thanks Jyothi -Original Message- From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Michel Combes Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:10 AM To: Yaron Sheffer Cc: ips

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Labelled IPsec

2009-12-08 Thread Casey Schaufler
Paul Moore wrote: > On Monday 07 December 2009 11:10:15 am Joy Latten wrote: > >> On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 12:46 -0600, Nicolas Williams wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 01:39:46PM -0500, Dan McDonald wrote: >>> The bigger point being missed by this thread, I think, is that it

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Labelled IPsec

2009-12-08 Thread Paul Moore
On Monday 07 December 2009 11:59:51 pm Steven Bellovin wrote: > On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > > On Monday 07 December 2009 05:16:26 pm Stephen Kent wrote: > >> Paul, > >> > >> From your comments it seems as though an IP option would be > >> preferable, as it is not IP-sec-specific

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Labelled IPsec

2009-12-08 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > On Monday 07 December 2009 05:16:26 pm Stephen Kent wrote: >> Paul, >> >> From your comments it seems as though an IP option would be >> preferable, as it is not IP-sec-specific, and it an be protected if >> needed, in the IPSec context, e.g., via

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: IKE/IPsec high availability andload sharing

2009-12-08 Thread Murthy N Srinivas-B22237
I would like to coauthor IKE/IPsec high availability and load sharing. Looks like a challenging and intereting problem. Thanks -ns murthy From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Migault Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Childless IKE SA

2009-12-08 Thread Murthy N Srinivas-B22237
Hi Interested in coauthoring this draft. Thanks -ns murthy -Original Message- From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:49 AM To: ipsec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Childless IKE SA

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: WESP extensibility - YES

2009-12-08 Thread Joseph Tardo
In general I find the OA&M options useful and, if the work item is accepted, would like to be a reviewer. Thanks, --Joe ___ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Labelled IPsec

2009-12-08 Thread Jarrett Lu
Joy Latten wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 15:02 -0600, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:10:15AM -0600, Joy Latten wrote: The proposed work item is, at first glance anyways, too SELinux- specific. Note that SMACK encodes its labels as CIPSO labels, so a scheme that uses CI

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: EAP-only authentication in IKEv2

2009-12-08 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 10:18:48PM -0500, Michael Richardson wrote: > Dan Harkins wrote: > > 2. solves the specific problem it is aimed at poorly-- doubling of > >the number of messages, requiring writing and testing of new > >state EAP state machines that are, otherwise, unnece

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: EAP-only authentication in IKEv2

2009-12-08 Thread Yaron Sheffer
Hi Nico, If I understand you correctly, EAP crypto binding is what IKEv2 provides by default, by including the EAP MSK into the IKE AUTH payload (RFC 4306, sec. 2.16 and 2.15). I believe what Dan is discussing is enabling secure transmission of ID parameters over the EAP channel (sorry...), whi

Re: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Labelled IPsec

2009-12-08 Thread Jarrett Lu
Casey Schaufler wrote: Jarrett Lu wrote: Without rehashing the statements made in above discussion threads, it's probably helpful to have a realistic interoperability expectation for labeled systems. Defining label formats and security mechanisms in various networking protocols is important.