I hadn’t thought of list().
I've update the patch (attached) so that each value has both an indexed and
associative entry in the returned array, so that it will still work with list().
Paul
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From: Alexey Shein [mailto:con...@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 July 2011 10:44
To: Mic
This one is quite positive, I'm all +1 on this as a user land developer.
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On Jul 11, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 7/11/11 5:09 PM, Philip Olson wrote:
>> this previously accepted RFC is not about removing magic quotes. And I'm the
>> author of said RFC. It deals with PHP 5.3 which removed get_magic_quotes_*()
>> so this old RFC restored them int
Hi!
On 7/13/11 8:55 AM, Philip Olson wrote:
But this topic (removing magic quotes from 5.4) was not proposed on
this list, so the vote feels premature. The only related RFC on the
matter involves PHP 6, and it isn't specific to MQ. Granted we all
don't like MQ, but this "security" feature is ena
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 20:02, David Soria Parra wrote:
> On 2011-07-12, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> As of now I do not think we should allow this change, whether the RFC
>> is accepted or not does not matter as it will badly break BC. Unless
>> there is a patch allowing this change without a
Hi!
On 7/13/11 9:35 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote:
This thread is an excellent example why attempting to reach consensus
by discussing things is important.
Voting should be considered as an desperate last resort, not the
primary mechanism.
http://producingoss.com/en/consensus-democracy.html has se
On Jul 13, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 20:02, David Soria Parra wrote:
>> On 2011-07-12, Pierre Joye wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> As of now I do not think we should allow this change, whether the RFC
>>> is accepted or not does not matter as it will badly brea
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 7/10/11 9:41 AM, Patrick ALLAERT wrote:
> > I'm sure some projects have defined classes with those keywords in
> > some namespace (to ensure they wouldn't conflict with possible PHP
> > built-in stuff) like in:
> >
> > namespace \Types {
> >
hi Hannes,
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Hannes Magnusson
wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 20:02, David Soria Parra wrote:
>> On 2011-07-12, Pierre Joye wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> As of now I do not think we should allow this change, whether the RFC
>>> is accepted or not does not matter as it w
On 07/13/2011 10:30 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> I disagree and this exact issue shows that the voting and controlling
> is actually working well, very well. As it is covered by the two
> recently adopted RFCs.
I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that it is working well.
This particular change
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 7/13/11 8:55 AM, Philip Olson wrote:
>>
>> But this topic (removing magic quotes from 5.4) was not proposed on
>> this list, so the vote feels premature. The only related RFC on the
>> matter involves PHP 6, and it isn't specific t
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On 07/13/2011 10:30 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> I disagree and this exact issue shows that the voting and controlling
>> is actually working well, very well. As it is covered by the two
>> recently adopted RFCs.
>
> I'm not sure how you come t
Hi!
On 7/13/11 11:11 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
I would also change my vote, I would go with keeping it deprecated,
but turning it off by default (currently it isn't done, but the
suggested development/production inis have this turned off), and
remove it with the next minor version bump.
Which b
On 07/13/2011 11:17 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> On 07/13/2011 10:30 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>>> I disagree and this exact issue shows that the voting and controlling
>>> is actually working well, very well. As it is covered by the two
>>> recen
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 7/13/11 11:11 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>>
>> I would also change my vote, I would go with keeping it deprecated,
>> but turning it off by default (currently it isn't done, but the
>> suggested development/production inis have this
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On 07/13/2011 11:17 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>>> On 07/13/2011 10:30 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
I disagree and this exact issue shows that the voting and controlling
is actually
Hi!
On 7/13/11 11:35 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
tyrael@thor:~/checkouts$ php -n -r 'echo PHP_VERSION."\n";echo
ini_get("magic_quotes_gpc")."\n";'
5.3.6-6~dotdeb.1
1
Nobody runs PHP with -n, who would you do that? INIs are the recommended
setting, if you ignore that, you do it at your own peril.
On 07/13/2011 11:50 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> Are you saying that widely approved thing are pointless or we could
> have foreseen the results for each of them? Better to have a vote and
> got a massive support than nothing and sit in the middle of nowhere
> forever.
I'm saying that many of these in
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On 07/13/2011 11:50 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> Are you saying that widely approved thing are pointless or we could
>> have foreseen the results for each of them? Better to have a vote and
>> got a massive support than nothing and sit in the m
ah forgot to mention that indeed not all todos should have be done via
a RFC, that would not help us, not at all. But the primitive one, for
example, must have one.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On 07/13/2011 11:50 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> Are you saying that widely ap
On 07/13/2011 12:23 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> On 07/13/2011 11:50 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>>> Are you saying that widely approved thing are pointless or we could
>>> have foreseen the results for each of them? Better to have a vote and
>>> go
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 7/13/11 11:35 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>>
>> tyrael@thor:~/checkouts$ php -n -r 'echo PHP_VERSION."\n";echo
>> ini_get("magic_quotes_gpc")."\n";'
>> 5.3.6-6~dotdeb.1
>> 1
>
> Nobody runs PHP with -n, who would you do that? INIs are
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> Right, but these folks that don't follow the discussions are the same 37
> people who voted for the Primitives change. How is that helpful?
Many of the votes there are not from developers. We have explained
what happened earlier this week.
Hi!
On 7/13/11 12:28 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
I do in many situations while testing and debugging and that's why the
default values exist.
Can't we keep it on topic? Do you need magic quotes when you're
debugging? Do you expect it to have the same value with and without -n?
Does your code rely
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On 7/13/11 11:35 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>>>
>>> tyrael@thor:~/checkouts$ php -n -r 'echo PHP_VERSION."\n";echo
>>> ini_get("magic_quotes_gpc")."\n";'
>>> 5.3.6-6~dotdeb.1
>>>
I'm sure this has been discussed, but I'm new here, and uncertain as to
where to go to get caught up.
What's so wrong with magic quotes that they need to be removed from the
language entirely?
Links of advice would be helpful.
Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Stas Malyshev [mailto:smalys.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 7/13/11 12:28 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>>
>> I do in many situations while testing and debugging and that's why the
>> default values exist.
>
> Can't we keep it on topic? Do you need magic quotes when you're debugging?
> Do you expe
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Moshe, Sam wrote:
> I'm sure this has been discussed, but I'm new here, and uncertain as to
> where to go to get caught up.
> What's so wrong with magic quotes that they need to be removed from the
> language entirely?
>
> Links of advice would be helpful.
> Thanks
Am 13.07.2011 21:50, schrieb Moshe, Sam:
> What's so wrong with magic quotes that they need to be removed from the
> language entirely?
they are idiotic because useless for escaping database inputs
and you need to find out this setting to remove them by
stripslashes() if enabled from some dumb adm
Great responses, all of them.
Thanks everybody for the insight.
Apologies if I veered off topic.
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From: Reindl Harald [mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:56 PM
To: internals@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 5.4 features vote
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