Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-29 Thread Gwynne Raskind
On May 29, 2011, at 2:24 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> - I immediately had to write an extension to give me access to >> several missing APIs (clock_gettime() and a number of ncurses >> functions not implemented in the ncurses extension). > So the problem with PHP is that it doesn't include support f

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-29 Thread Pascal COURTOIS
Le 29/05/2011 09:41, Gwynne Raskind a écrit : > The balance between rapid development, learning curve, and usability. > One line in Python or PHP or even C# can equate to thousands in C. no doubt > Python or Java might be a better match for what I'm doing, sure > but then > there's the q

[PHP-DEV] 5.3.7

2011-05-29 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi, Quick notice: On Thursday (June 2nd) I'll roll 5.3.7RC1 please make sure all fixes are in, I hope we can have a short cycle. Johannes -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-29 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > annotations have been a central part of the last 100 or so JSRs and I've >> only seen one or two informed objections, it's fairly obvious the list has >> had very little experience with Java. >> > > Maybe having experience with Jav

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-29 Thread Ronald Chmara
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> Maybe having experience with Java is exactly the reason why some people are >> reluctant to make PHP more like Java... Just saying ;) > then those would have informed objections, don't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-29 Thread Lester Caine
Ronald Chmara wrote: Put another way, Java was designed by engineers, who know how to make a damn solid building. Just don't ask for a door in the wall if you didn't include it in the original design ;) And get the check book add to get it added PHP was put together by people who know ho

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-29 Thread Herman Radtke
> I doubt it. This is the same list that doesn't see the point of annotations > or wants them pushed to documentation blocks. Since annotations have been a > central part of the last 100 or so JSRs and I've only seen one or two > informed objections, it's fairly obvious the list has had very little

Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode (was What's up with Quercus?)

2011-05-29 Thread Tom Samplonius
> With the loss of Unicode (which now lacks even an implementation > plan) ... How has Unicode been lost? There is tons of encoding stuff in PHP. As of 5.3, you can use declare() to set the encoding for scripts. There is the mb_* stuff for multibyte support. Obviously, saying PHP has "no U

Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode (was What's up with Quercus?)

2011-05-29 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > > > With the loss of Unicode (which now lacks even an implementation > > plan) > ... > > How has Unicode been lost? There is tons of encoding stuff in PHP. As of > 5.3, you can use declare() to set the encoding for scripts. There is t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-29 Thread Gustavo Lopes
On Sun, 29 May 2011 16:17:48 +0100, Herman Radtke wrote: I doubt it. This is the same list that doesn't see the point of annotations or wants them pushed to documentation blocks. Since annotations have been a central part of the last 100 or so JSRs and I've only seen one or two informed