Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] The open letter to Derick Rethans

2004-06-20 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
SH>>Perhaps we should try running php.net and zend.com on php5 before we SH>>release? if we're not even eating our own dogfood yet, it seems SH>>premature to release. As for zend.com, I don't think this is going to happen before the release, if the release dates are what they are announced. Als

[PHP-DEV] rsync niggle

2004-06-20 Thread Lester Caine
OK - I have rsync working on Windows ( no need for full cygwin and I'll publish the links later ) It runs as far as manual/tr/figures and then fails:- rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer. rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(151) Since the next directory woul

[PHP-DEV] PHP5 on 7th July?

2004-06-20 Thread Stefan Esser
Hi, would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July? We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July the patent is world wide lifted. Stefan (ps: maybe this even attracts more people to PHP5 ;) -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To uns

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 on 7th July?

2004-06-20 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Stefan, imo a very good idea. Add support at the 7th (no other changes), a few gif tests on the 8th and then release. best regards marcus Sunday, June 20, 2004, 12:41:51 PM, you wrote: > Hi, > would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July? > We could add GIF write su

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 on 7th July?

2004-06-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Stefan Esser wrote: > Hi, > > would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July? > We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July > the patent is world wide lifted. I don't want GIF support in ;-) Derick -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtim

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] The open letter to Derick Rethans

2004-06-20 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 10:28 20/06/2004, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: SH>>Perhaps we should try running php.net and zend.com on php5 before we SH>>release? if we're not even eating our own dogfood yet, it seems SH>>premature to release. As for zend.com, I don't think this is going to happen before the release, if the re

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 on 7th July?

2004-06-20 Thread Sara Golemon
> > would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July? > > We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July > > the patent is world wide lifted. > > I don't want GIF support in ;-) > While I appreciate your reasons for not wanting GIF and agree with them on an

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 on 7th July?

2004-06-20 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:00 20/06/2004, Sara Golemon wrote: As to release timing, I'd feel uncomfortable "adding" a new bundled libgd the day of/day before release. I'd sooner release 5.0.0 on the 4th, add GD on the 8th, and RC 5.0.1 once or twice. +1 on that. Zeev -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 on 7th July?

2004-06-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Sara Golemon wrote: > > > would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July? > > > We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July > > > the patent is world wide lifted. > > > > I don't want GIF support in ;-) > > > While I appreciate you

[PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Brad House
The ext/mcve module at some point in time needs to be renamed ext/monetra to reflect a naming change, and lessen confusion in the field, as the product is no longer referenced as MCVE. What is the best way to go about doing this? I did not want to just go in there and remove ext/mcve and commit the

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Brad House wrote: > The ext/mcve module at some point in time needs to be renamed > ext/monetra to reflect a naming change, and lessen confusion > in the field, as the product is no longer referenced as MCVE. > > What is the best way to go about doing this? I did not want to >

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Brad House
heh, well, I know I definitely do not have permissions to do that then :) Any assistance someone could provide me would be appreciated. Also, I can go ahead an make a set of patches to finalize the naming switch for the config.m4/w32 and the remaining references in the code (and commit prior to ren

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Brad House wrote: > heh, well, I know I definitely do not have permissions > to do that then :) > Any assistance someone could provide me would be appreciated. > Also, I can go ahead an make a set of patches to finalize > the naming switch for the config.m4/w32 and the remaini

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 on 7th July?

2004-06-20 Thread Sara Golemon
> > > I don't want GIF support in ;-) > > > > > While I appreciate your reasons for not wanting GIF and agree with them on > > an academic level, I don't think it makes sense from our user's perspective > > to hold back support for something for which the base code already exists > > and requires o

Re: [PHP-DEV] The open letter to Derick Rethans

2004-06-20 Thread Lester Caine
Zeev Suraski wrote: We'll actually try to move something on www.zend.com to PHP 5 before the release, but definitely not the whole of it. It's a much more complicated site than www.php.net is, though, so it will take longer to actually migrate the whole of it. I don't think it reflects on the

[PHP-DEV] >> How to Establish Bi-Directional Pipe to PHP Via ANSI "C" <

2004-06-20 Thread Larry Adams
Hi, Does anyone have example C code to establish a pipe to PHP using something like file descriptors, sockets, etc. that can allow me to send multiple file processing requests to PHP without the overhead of calling POPEN repeatedly and having to reload the PHP executable? I would like to load PHP

[PHP-DEV] >> How to Establish Bi-Directional Pipe to PHP Via ANSI "C" <

2004-06-20 Thread Larry Adams
Hi, Does anyone have example C code to establish a pipe to PHP using something like file descriptors, sockets, etc. that can allow me to send multiple file processing requests to PHP without the overhead of calling POPEN repeatedly and having to reload the PHP executable? I would like to load PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Hi, On 20 Jun 2004, at 17:36, Brad House wrote: Any assistance someone could provide me would be appreciated. Also, I can go ahead an make a set of patches to finalize the naming switch for the config.m4/w32 and the remaining references in the code (and commit prior to renaming the directory if des

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Brad House
Why not take the opportunity and move the extension to PECL? It sounds like a good candidate. Well, PECL still seems a bit like the redheaded step-child. I cannot even seem to reference it in the php documentation online (except for seeing some modules have been moved there). There are quite a few

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Brad House wrote: > Well, PECL still seems a bit like the redheaded step-child. I cannot > even seem to reference it in the php documentation online (except for > seeing some modules have been moved there). > There are quite a few users that utilize this extension, including >

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Jan Lehnardt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 20 Jun 2004, at 19:42, Brad House wrote: When PECL is better adopted by the community, and PHP provides documentation on them, I would have no problem moving it there. Following Rasmus' mail, moving your extension also increases the convenience f

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Please don't associate being moved to PECL with whether or not the extension is distributed as a standard PHP extension in the distribution tarball or not. The two have nothing to do with each other. -Rasmus On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > --[PinePGP]-

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] The open letter to Derick Rethans

2004-06-20 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I don't think it reflects on the quality of PHP 5. It does reflect on the > fact that migrating is a bit scary. Agreed, but I think that anything we can do to help mitigate these fears will help spur PHP 5 adoption. Deciding to migrate is about reward

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] The open letter to Derick Rethans

2004-06-20 Thread shimi
I run the il.php.net mirror on php5 from the beta era... It looks to be working fine... On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 17:49, Zeev Suraski wrote: > At 10:28 20/06/2004, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > >SH>>Perhaps we should try running php.net and zend.com on php5 before we > >SH>>release? if we're not even

[PHP-DEV] [PATCH] pcre caching and memory

2004-06-20 Thread Curt Zirzow
Problem: Php will allocate a new pcre object for each different regular expression. Since the allocated memory is outside the zend memory system, php can eat up lots of memory, and potentially eventually exhausting the memory. The patch I wrote introduces a new flag 'z', which enables t

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 on 7th July?

2004-06-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Sara Golemon wrote: > > Yeah, it's prolly ok to put it in 5.0.1, as long as that's QA-ed > > and handled the 'normal' way, like Ilia is doing for 4.3.x. Don't screw > > up or change our release things for the silly GIF stuff. > > > Ah, I wasn't aware the PHP_4_3 branch would g

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Brad House
I was under the impression that it was one or the other, not both. How do you coordinate the 2? -Brad Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Please don't associate being moved to PECL with whether or not the extension is distributed as a standard PHP extension in the distribution tarball or not. The two have noth

Re: [PHP-DEV] question on policy of renaming an extension

2004-06-20 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Brad House wrote: > I was under the impression that it was one or the other, not > both. How do you coordinate the 2? At distribution time we select which extensions to bundle. Generally ones we decide belong in the distribution tarball get a cvs symlink from php-src to pe

Re: [PHP-DEV] The open letter to Derick Rethans

2004-06-20 Thread Jeremy Johnstone
On Friday 18 June 2004 02:04 pm, Andi Gutmans wrote: > That said, I think it'd be great if there'd be people willing to pitch in > and work on trying to get it to work. Well if it's help which is needed, then I volunteer myself for anything that needs to be done to make it happen. -- Jeremy Joh

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 RC3

2004-06-20 Thread Derrell . Lipman
Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We won't release PHP 5 final without upgrading it. But as I think PHP 5 final > is about a month away (I don't think we'll need another RC), I suggest to > upgrade SQLite right after RC3 so that it's tested. > > Andi Before it gets too close to the PHP 5

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 RC3

2004-06-20 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Derrell, Monday, June 21, 2004, 1:01:02 AM, you wrote: > Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> We won't release PHP 5 final without upgrading it. But as I think PHP 5 final >> is about a month away (I don't think we'll need another RC), I suggest to >> upgrade SQLite right after RC3

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 RC3

2004-06-20 Thread Steph
FYI (it'll save you looking): There are two branches in SQLite's CVS.. I believe that Derrell is referring to more recent releases of the stable 2.8.* branch rather than the alpha 3.* branch. The sqlite library currently bundled with PHP 5 is 3 version points behind the times and dates from last

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 RC3

2004-06-20 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Steph, Monday, June 21, 2004, 7:16:40 AM, you wrote: > FYI (it'll save you looking): > There are two branches in SQLite's CVS.. I believe that Derrell is > referring to more recent releases of the stable 2.8.* branch rather than the > alpha 3.* branch. The sqlite library currently bundled

[PHP-DEV] Microsoft Scraping Email Addresses From PHP Internals List?

2004-06-20 Thread sumoraigabe-php
I know it's off topic, and I appologize, but I lurk on this mailing list using a disposable address to avoid spam, and now I'm receiving it as a result of being on the list (or posting to it). I have now received three separate Microsoft emails (security updates and such) at this address, which is