Hello Marcus,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 2:28:35 AM, you wrote:
MB> - Fix static class members. If the are public they need to be accessible from
MB> outside the class. If they have an initial value this value should be used
MB> and the keyword var should be working as well.
MB> php -r 'class t
Hello Marcus,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 2:28:35 AM, you wrote:
MB> - Include SPL (forach/array hooking).
I tested the current patch:
http://marcus-boerger.de/php/ext/ze2/ze2-spl-20030701.diff.tgz
and profiled it again. What i did (in case someone doesn't know yet) was to
read 10 rows of three colu
Hello Marcus,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 2:28:35 AM, you wrote:
MB> - Fix __clone() visibility. When implementing singletons we must forbid calling
MB> __clone() by making it private (private function __clone() is the same to
MB> singletons as private function __construct() to factories). Also t
At 07:54 PM 30/6/2003 +0200, Marcus Börger wrote:
AG> Can you please post a patch for the foreach() stuff (i.e. collection and
AG> iterator)?
AG> I don't exactly remember what you mean by array hooking. Is that what
AG> Andrei wants or does it also include a user-land interface to overload?
Please
Hello Jon,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 9:58:07 AM, you wrote:
JP> Everything is working well for me now, and I'd prefer to keep it that
JP> way.
If you did had a closer look then you'd've find out that essential things are
not working. Did you try the new oo stuff?
JP> I'm wary of adding new featur
Hello Andi,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 5:58:42 PM, you wrote:
AG> At 08:54 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Marcus Börger wrote:
>>Hello Andi,
>>
>>Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:10:30 AM, you wrote:
>>
>>AG> At 07:43 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>> >>Hey,
>> >>
>> >>In my opinion beta 1 should be labeled as
At 08:54 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Marcus Börger wrote:
Hello Andi,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:10:30 AM, you wrote:
AG> At 07:43 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>>Hey,
>>
>>In my opinion beta 1 should be labeled as a beta. The fact that we are
>>fixing a few features doesn't mean it's alpha. I kn
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> At 08:31 30/06/2003, Derick Rethans wrote:
> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> >
> > > feature-complete full-steam ahead for release. And that means bug fixes
> > > only from here on and it also means a PHP_5_0 branch.
>
> It doesn't mean th
On Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 11:14:38PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> > > Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
> > > the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of
> > > PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing. There's plenty of that to go around,
>
At 08:20 30/06/2003, Sterling Hughes wrote:
I refer you to the jargon file, which is about as good a definition that
you can get:
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/b/beta.html
"Mostly working, but still under test; usu. used with `in': `in beta'.
In the Real World, systems (hardware or software
At 08:31 30/06/2003, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> I agree. I think the beta was extremely premature, but now that it is out
> we are on a release track as far as I am concerned. Beta in my view means
> feature-complete full-steam ahead for release. And that
Hello Andi,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:10:30 AM, you wrote:
AG> At 07:43 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>>Hey,
>>
>>In my opinion beta 1 should be labeled as a beta. The fact that we are
>>fixing a few features doesn't mean it's alpha. I know what the definition
>>of alpha is but in real
Derick Rethans wrote:
> I don't think this is fair because some things were left out "because
> there would be a beta 2 anyway".
+1
--
Sebastian Bergmann
http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/
Das Buch zu PHP 5: http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-
Andi Gutmans wrote:
> Can you repost the docs?
Andrei's document
http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/reflection.txt
and my diagram for it
http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/reflection.png
--
Sebastian Bergmann
http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTr
I refer you to the jargon file, which is about as good a definition that
you can get:
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/b/beta.html
"Mostly working, but still under test; usu. used with `in': `in beta'.
In the Real World, systems (hardware or software) software often go
through two stages of r
At 07:31 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Andi Gutmans wrote:
> Do you have the URL of the docs?
The current one would be
http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/reflection-update.png
I re-posted Andrei's document a couple of days ago and made the above
diagram at the same t
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> I agree. I think the beta was extremely premature, but now that it is out
> we are on a release track as far as I am concerned. Beta in my view means
> feature-complete full-steam ahead for release. And that means bug fixes
> only from here on and it
Andi Gutmans wrote:
> Do you have the URL of the docs?
The current one would be
http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/reflection-update.png
I re-posted Andrei's document a couple of days ago and made the above
diagram at the same time.
--
Sebastian Bergmann
http://sebastian-bergmann
Do you have the URL of the docs?
Andi
At 07:15 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Jon Parise wrote:
> Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
> the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of
> PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing.
One
At 07:15 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Jon Parise wrote:
> Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
> the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of
> PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing.
One thing that is IMHO essential for the PH
Jon Parise wrote:
> Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
> the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of
> PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing.
One thing that is IMHO essential for the PHP 5.0.0 is the Reflection
API on which George and An
At 07:43 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote:
Hey,
In my opinion beta 1 should be labeled as a beta. The fact that we are
fixing a few features doesn't mean it's alpha. I know what the definition
of alpha is but in real life most beta's do end up having quite a few code
changes before releas
Hey,
In my opinion beta 1 should be labeled as a beta. The fact that we are
fixing a few features doesn't mean it's alpha. I know what the definition
of alpha is but in real life most beta's do end up having quite a few code
changes before release.
I agree that we should try and feature freeze
There is no real reason why we can't adapt our habits to reflect the
concepts others understand them as. AKA why not just stop calling it a
BETA, and refer to it as an ALPHA? At least users would recognize what
this is.
On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 11:48 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
The proble
The problem here is just that the PHP notion of a beta is very different
from what most of the world expects from a beta. We have cleaned up some
aspects or our versioning and I was hoping we could clean this up as well.
But I guess not. So, at the very least we need a versioning FAQ where we
exp
Jon,
I have to agree with your thinking as well.
Although to the rest of internals, a plea. Can we please wait until
after a weekend to send out release notifications?
On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 08:59 PM, Jon Parise wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:28:35AM +0200, Marcus Brger wrote:
In n
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Jon Parise wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:28:35AM +0200, Marcus Brger wrote:
> >
> > > In no particular order these are the things i think should be done before
> > > releasing the next php 5 beta version:
> >
> > Without going into detail on any of these specific i
I agree. I think the beta was extremely premature, but now that it is out
we are on a release track as far as I am concerned. Beta in my view means
feature-complete full-steam ahead for release. And that means bug fixes
only from here on and it also means a PHP_5_0 branch.
-Rasmus
On Sun, 29 J
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:28:35AM +0200, Marcus Brger wrote:
> In no particular order these are the things i think should be done before
> releasing the next php 5 beta version:
Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
the only work that should be undertaken between
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