> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Jon Parise wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:28:35AM +0200, Marcus Brger wrote:
> >
> > > In no particular order these are the things i think should be done before
> > > releasing the next php 5 beta version:
> >
> > Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
> > the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of
> > PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing.  There's plenty of that to go around,
> > and while I realize that everyone wants to get their pet feature added
> > to or expanded in PHP 5, we need to be realistic.

Jon, the overloading issues were left to beta 2, this was already agreed
upon.  Its still a long way to a release (I'd guestimate 6-9 months). 
The beta is not at this point solid from an API perspective.  But since
you seem to think a lot needs fixing up - what would you like fixed up? 
What's not working for you atm?  Marcus is, btw, not proposing new
features, just completing the existing feature, integrated overloading.

> >
> > Any of the items that include the words "add" or "integrate" should be
> > left for 5.1.  Any items marked as "complete" or "finish" are open for
> > debate.  Any items marked as "fix" should be addressed as soon as
> > possible.
> >

There won't be truly drastic internals rewrites at this point, but we
are not 100% feature complete.  Things like a modified API for
overloading, or clarifications in the type hint model are certainly
valid for consideration in the beta process.  There will of course be
lots of bugfixing, but I don't think we should be overly strict at this
point.

-Sterling

> >
-- 
Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from 
bad judgement. 
    - Fred Brooks

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